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To: ctdonath2
Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s proof of malice - it just means you’re ignorant.

I'm hardly ignorant. The number he put out 920 I would like to see verified by others who can clean up the same image as seen below, and not take some guy working pro bono or otherwise for Obama for CNN news or the DoH. And 2nd, anything at this point coming from the Hawaii's DoH is completely suspect, especially some abstract that was set up to go on national TV and not from a guy whose mommy said she saw Obama at the hospital after 3 years into this fraud was being played out.


CNN 25th April Weidelich  COLB

From post 6.

It’s also out of sequence with the certificate for Stig Waidelich, who was born on August 6, and has a certificate number of 10920. This is almost 200 numbers off of both the Nordyke twins and the Obama certificate number, and indicates the whole theory is fatally flawed.


Actually it's 279 numbers off of Obama's COLB and 283 and 282 numbers off the Nordyke twins COLBs.

234 posted on 05/20/2011 8:07:44 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

That’s been better answered by others.


238 posted on 05/20/2011 8:16:50 AM PDT by ctdonath2
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To: Red Steel

The Waidelich number is probably 620 or maybe 520, not 920, which would actually make sense with the Nordyke numbers. A 5 might look quite a bit like a 9 on TV.


246 posted on 05/20/2011 8:37:37 AM PDT by edge919
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To: Red Steel
It’s also out of sequence with the certificate for Stig Waidelich, who was born on August 6, and has a certificate number of 10920. This is almost 200 numbers off of both the Nordyke twins and the Obama certificate number, and indicates the whole theory is fatally flawed.

Actually it's 279 numbers off of Obama's COLB and 283 and 282 numbers off the Nordyke twins COLBs.

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Obama copy at FactCheck site compared to Stig Waidelich certificate that we see on CNN during CNN's recent investigation: Where is the seal on Waidelich's short form birth certificate that we see on Obama's short form at the FactCheck site?

I may be missing something, but while I see the Hawaii seal on Obama's short form at the FactCheck site---the FactCheck people positioned Obama's short form so that the camera would pick up the seal---I do NOT see the same seal, or any seal, on the Waidelich short form certifcate that the CNN reporter is holding up to the camera just a few feet from the Hawaii window where he obtained Waidelich's birth certificate.

I'm sure Waidelich's short form has a seal somewhere, but I can't see it.

Could someone point the seal out to me that is on the FRONT of theWaidelich certificate, or is it on the back?

What is on the back of the Waidelich short form? Is the registrar's stamp and seal on the back?

Waidelich's short form: Did you notice that a date is NOT bleeding through from the back like it is on Obama's short form that we saw at Obama's Fight the Smears site back in 2008?

253 posted on 05/20/2011 9:15:18 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: Red Steel

Is it true that CNN flew Waidelich to Hawaii so he could ask for his birth certificate, only to try to prove the undisputed fact that a COLB is the default when a person requests their BC?

If that is all they were trying to prove, they could have asked anybody off the street in Hawaii to do the same and saved themselves the cost of the flights. They chose Waidelich specifically for the purpose of showing this BC#, which according to what both Janice Okubo and the HDOH Administrative Rules say is anomalous.

The more I see, the more I think CNN, the HDOH, and the folks at Fogbow had this thing planned in advance. By 6:17AM the morning after this piece aired on CNN I had a post at my blog from a Fogbow member pointing out that Waidelich’s number supposedly refutes the BC numbering claim made by Janice Okubo. Right on cue.

Somebody on my blog mentioned seeing conversation on Fogbow about one of their people calling in on a show where Corsi was being interviewed, presumably with the comment that the Waidelich BC# “proves” that the numbers were not given sequentially. And that commenter on my blog said that every time Corsi is on the air, there is somebody who makes that claim about Waidelich’s BC#. So there seems to be a deliberate campaign to use this BC# in order to get rid of questions about Obama’s BC#/date filed problem - and it started before daybreak the day after CNN aired the program.

What the HDOH, CNN, and the Fogbow folks don’t want to address is the FACT that Virginia Sunahara is in their birth index and yet they told me that they have no birth record for her. They also told me that nobody had requested her records, even though *I* had requested her record and they should have told me that they couldn’t do a search without knowing the name of the requestor.

They also don’t want to address the FACT that the HDOH has manipulated their 1960-64 birth index to allow legally-invalid records to be included.

You are absolutely right that anything from the HDOH can’t be trusted. I’ve got posts up at my blog which detail the lawlessness of that agency. If we had the rule of law any more there should have been a criminal investigation launched a long, long time ago - to investigate the actions of THE HDOH at the very least.

Showing the transaction logs for Virginia Sunahara, Barack Hussein Obama II, and Stig Waidelich would not compromise anybody’s privacy because the logs would only say when the record was created or accessed and what kind of action was taken on it. No information from the record itself would be disclosed. Anybody who wants to argue about the genuineness of either Obama’s or Waidelich’s record should be asked whether they believe the Hawaii government should disclose the transaction logs for these records so that the INTEGRITY OF THE HDOH can be put to public scrutiny.

I know of no reason why anybody should question that. But we’ll see what responses we get when we ask the defenders of both the Obama and Waidelich BC#’s whether they support compelling the HI government to disclose the transaction logs.


294 posted on 05/20/2011 12:47:15 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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