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1 posted on 05/19/2011 6:28:29 PM PDT by Red Steel
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Where’s Frank Abagnail when you need him?


160 posted on 05/20/2011 12:48:03 AM PDT by alstewartfan (While we lay under our roofs, the whole night filled up with the beating of hooves. Al Stewart)
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I'm still trying to figure out why Obama had to order a new long form birth certificate this recent April 2011 in the first place.

1. Am I to believe that the President of the United of States of America was so careless that he lost his original long form birth certificate, a very valuable document in most families, and that is why he had to order a new one in April 2011? I'm sorry but I find that hard to believe.

2. And if Obama lost his long form birth certificate, when did he lose it?

3. June 2007: If Obama lost it, it must have been in 2007 or earlier, because that is the year stamped on the back of Obama's short form certificate that we see on the FactCheck site. The 2007 date on the back of the certificate means that then Senator Obama ordered a new birth certificate in 2007.

4. Just wondering: Why didn't then Senator Obama order another long form birth certificate back in 2007 instead of ordering a short form, because we now know that a person had a choice of ordering either a short form or long form birth certificate back in 2007.

5. Think about this: An official at the Hawaii Health Department gets a phone call or a letter from then Senator Obama requesting a copy of his birth certificate. I would think that the official would go out of his way to check with then Senator Obama if he wanted a short form or a long form. If I had been Senator Obama and I had lost my long form, I would try to get another long form to replace the one I lost. For instance, as a newly elected United States Senator, I might be asked later by some agency or some reporter to see my long form birth certificate, so I would play it safe and I would make sure that I ordered a long form instead of a short form birth certificate. But that is just me.

6. How did then Senator Obama order his birth certificate back in 2007? If he ordered by letter, then I wonder if such a letter is still on file. If it was by letter, I bet the clerks at the Hawaii Health Department were excited to receive such a unique and even historical request for a birth certificate from native son and newly elected Senator Obama.

7. Or maybe Senator Obama simply called Hawaii officials and requested a copy. Still, I bet the clerk who made the copy must have been all excited to make a copy for then Senator Obama from Illinois. I bet the word spread throughout the Hawaii Health Department like wild fire that Senator Obama has requested a copy of his birth certificate. I wonder who the clerk was who made the copy. Of course, if Obama made his request in secret, I would wonder why.

8. I wonder how long it was from the time that Obama realized that he had lost his long form birth certificate until June 2007 when Obama ordered a new birth certificate.

9. I doubt that Obama ordered his birth certificate the same day that he realized that he had lost his. So I would guess a few days or a few weeks must have passed from the time Obama discovered that he couldn't find his long form birth certificate to the time when he ordered a new birth certificate from Hawaii in 2007.

10. So it looks like then Senator Obama was without a birth certificate for at least a few days or even a few weeks back in 2007.

11. I find it funny as I imagine Senator and future President Obama anxiously and fruitlessly searching through his records like the rest of us when he realized that he couldn't find his long form birth certificate where he thought he had safely put it, and maybe, out of desperation and a feeling of helplessness, he ended up asking his wife Michelle and his staff if they had seen his long form birth certificate lying around somewhere. Too funny.

12. Mainstream reporters scared of Obama? And the mainstream media is so scared of Obama that it failed to ask Obama a simple question about the long form birth certificate when Obama announced on April 27, 2011 at a White House press conference that he was releasing his long form birth certificate: Why did you have to go to all that trouble to order a new long form birth certificate? Did you lose the one you had? If you lost it, when did you first realize that you had lost it?

207 posted on 05/20/2011 5:15:35 AM PDT by john mirse
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Too long. Didn’t read. Doesn’t matter.

Obama has admitted that he was not born to two citizen parents; thus he is not a “natural born citizen” by the common definition in use when the Constitution was written. That alone should sufficiently disqualify him,

However, no one who is in a position of power (who could do anything effective about the situation) *CARES* or *AGREES*. No one in congress cares; No Supreme Court Justice cares; No federal judge cares, no federal prosecutor cares, etc... Clearly, *NOBODY* who can do anything cares/agrees. This is a dead issue until that changes. It’s a damn shame, but that’s where we are.


212 posted on 05/20/2011 6:26:02 AM PDT by jaydee770
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Well done. And don’t forget - Hawaii is spelled ‘HAWAI’ on the certification.

This analysis would stand up in court. I have seen convictions on much less.

Our issue remains that we are all trying to find a civil means of dealing with a criminal act, and the system does not support it. Law enforcement should be all over this.


213 posted on 05/20/2011 6:27:34 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: Red Steel; MHGinTN; LucyT; bgill; Future Useless Eater; CommieCutter; Jeff Winston; Fred Nerks; ...
Compare known scans to the supposed scan released by 1600 Pennsylvania.

Real scans do not create the white effect around the lettering - at any DPI, using any typical color scan setting. I tested down to 72 DPI with various formats - no white halos. The color behind the lettering always comes through without the white halo.

Also note that the black parts of the actual certified copies (which is what these all are supposed to be) merge where handwritten entries cross pre-typed or pre-printed. This is due to the imaging process used to store the digital images. Typically tif format for most digital image systems. If there is no gray scale involved they probably use 1 bit color (simple on-off). With 1 bit scanning (again, the perferred method to capture black and white documents in a digital systems (less storage, cheaper) the scan process (scan by the state into their digital system) will not differentiate handwriting going over a preprinted line. It will pickup an element or not - binary. There, not there. Anyone who deals with professional digital image systems (that all states use) knows this.

FYI - the upper left hand is Bobby Jindals released BC.

Here it is...you decide.

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259 posted on 05/20/2011 10:00:40 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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Team Obama obviously has someone high up within the HDOH to be able to search through the files to put this thing together. I’d bet there is a match with another bc filed on Aug 8 but in 1971.


273 posted on 05/20/2011 11:40:31 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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Team Obama obviously has someone high up within the HDOH to be able to search through the files to put this thing together. I’d bet there is a match with another bc filed on Aug 8 but in 1971.


274 posted on 05/20/2011 11:40:31 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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A great analysis, thorough and irrefutable. What is the distribution of the press release? Is it being sent to Attornies General in the states and other law enforcement, and / or legislatures for action?


285 posted on 05/20/2011 12:21:51 PM PDT by JoeA (JoeA / Lex clavatoris designati rescindenda est)
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PING


320 posted on 05/20/2011 3:02:37 PM PDT by jetson
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