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To: Elendur

Get off the Indonesian angle. IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. STOP ALREADY. A child can not give up his U.S. citizenship. Neither can his parentsfor him. Whatever a foreign country does has no effect on your U.S. citizenship.

HE WAS A CHILD. U.S. citizenship PROTECTED for you until age of majority 18 years of age.

PERKINS V. ELG, 307 U. S. 325 (1939)

U.S. Supreme Court

Perkins v. Elg, 307 U.S. 325 (1939)

Perkins v. Elg

No. 454

Argued February 3, 1939

Decided May 29, 1939*

307 U.S. 325

Syllabus

1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328.

2. As municipal law determines how citizenship may be acquired, the same person may possess a dual nationality. P. 307 U. S. 329.

3. A citizen by birth retains his United States citizenship unless deprived of it through the operation of a treaty or congressional enactment or by his voluntary action in conformity with applicable legal principles. P. 307 U. S. 329.

4. It has long been a recognized principle in this country that, if a child born here is taken during minority to the country of his parents’ origin, where his parents resume their former allegiance, he does not thereby lose his citizenship in the United States provided that, on attaining majority, he elects to retain that citizenship and to return to the United States to assume its duties. P. 307 U. S. 329.

http://supreme.justia.com/us/307/325/


11 posted on 05/16/2011 8:39:21 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts ma'am, just the facts)
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To: faucetman

I do not dispute that he may be a US Citizen; however, I do not believe him to be a Natural-born Citizen as required by the Constitution.


12 posted on 05/16/2011 8:43:58 AM PDT by KEmom (Proud to be a Mama Grizzly!!!)
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To: faucetman
Get off the Indonesian angle. IT DOESNT MATTER AT ALL. STOP ALREADY. A child can not give up his U.S. citizenship. Neither can his parentsfor him. Whatever a foreign country does has no effect on your U.S. citizenship.

A couple of points. In the Wong Kim Ark case, the Supreme Court acknowledged that (at the time) parents COULD do something to cause the child to lose his or her citizenship: "... has never lost or changed that residence, or gained or acquired another residence, and neither he nor his parents acting for him ever renounced his allegiance to the United States, or did or committed any act or thing to exclude him ..." The state department has admitted on an adoption website that it cannot protect U.S. citizenship for those persons adopted in countries that do not recognize dual citizenship (such as Indonesia). Further, the issue isn't just whether Obama/ Soetoro may have lost/renounced his U.S. citizenship (if he EVER had it to begin with), but whether Obama acted as a foreign citizen as an adult and whether he took steps to dishonestly hide his foreign citizenship(s) from voters. How many people vote for a guy when they learn he's lied about whether he was ever the citizen of another country??

21 posted on 05/17/2011 12:58:51 AM PDT by edge919
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To: faucetman
"1. A child born here of alien parentage becomes a citizen of the United States. P. 307 U. S. 328."

Why do you assune that he was born "here"?

22 posted on 05/17/2011 4:01:54 AM PDT by OldEagle
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