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Trump: 'Torture' led to catching bin Laden
MSNBC ^ | May 11, 2011 | Catherine Chomiak

Posted on 05/11/2011 5:44:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Back in the spotlight today, potential presidential candidate Donald Trump said “we had a great victory last week with the killing of bin Laden.” A result Trump says couldn’t have been achieved without enhanced interrogation techniques.

“In terms of torture, in terms of enhanced interrogation, we wouldn’t have caught bin Laden without it. That’s what got us to him,” Trump told the audience at Expo Nashua in New Hampshire.

Trump insisted that Pakistan had to be aware al Qaeda’s leader was in their country. “If anybody thinks that Pakistan, the government, didn’t know that he was there, they’re foolish, okay, they’re very foolish," Trump said. "So, they’re not really our friend and they’re not really our enemy."

The Donald also proposed withholding aid to Pakistan until “they get rid of their nuclear weapons.”

On domestic policies, Trump warned another term for President Obama would mean higher taxes......

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: obama; osama; taxes; trump
Of course it did.
1 posted on 05/11/2011 5:44:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

El Correcto. GOP stupid. Trump doing the jobs that GOP will not do.


2 posted on 05/11/2011 5:52:46 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: screaminsunshine

With one exception, and we all know her name...


3 posted on 05/11/2011 5:55:00 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Work hard and become a leader; be lazy and never succeed. (Proverbs 12:24))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

WRONG. Water boarding and enhanced interrogations are NOT torture. Torture would be illegal, but the interrogations the Bush administration authorized fell far short of being “torture”.

Trump gets it wrong yet again.


4 posted on 05/11/2011 5:58:26 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The Donald also proposed withholding aid to Pakistan until “they get rid of their nuclear weapons.” "

That's a good idea.

If they go over to China or Iran, at least they stand in stark contrast to our allies. If we have any anymore.

See, the thing about Goliath, even those who like him will not tell him he is wrong. They fear that petulant little swat before he realizes he's wrong.

That's why we have not heard from the rest of the Anglosphere. They know we are on the road to destruction...and they are afraid of both the outcome and being the first one to say it.

5 posted on 05/11/2011 6:01:49 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Nah.  I don't buy the use of the term "torture"  in this context.  When we train our own military, we don't "torture" them, and waterboarding is used in some of our training regimen, as I understand it.

6 posted on 05/11/2011 6:02:51 PM PDT by Let_It_Be_So
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama will never admit it. But we’re not stupid.


7 posted on 05/11/2011 6:04:23 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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That's a good idea.

This is the kind of thing that sounds good in theory and is said by people (in this case Trump) who probably haven't actually considered or understand the ramifications.

Pakistan is not going to give up their nuclear weapons any time soon. Period. They won't because of their historic rivalry with India - which is somewhat unrelated to the GWOT. If Trump put that policy into effect he would immediately throw Pakistan firmly and entirely into the Chinese and Iranian sphere of influence. We'd be leaving them no other option.

It is one thing to threaten to withhold aid over their support of terrorist groups and lack of cooperation with us in the war on terror. That is something they can actually rectify - or at least improve. But demanding they dismantle their nukes is a bridge so far beyond the possible that Trump might as well just say he is suspending all aid to Pakistan. This would mean immediately writing off basing special forces in Pakistan, no overflight rights, no intelligence sharing (much of it behind the scenes), no vital sea link to truck supplies to our forces in Afghanistan, etc.

One can agree or disagree with aid to Pakistan based on their poor record of dealing with terrorists, but the nuclear weapons issue is not really the determining factor of whether we send them cash.

8 posted on 05/11/2011 6:17:25 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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I don’t consider water boarding torture. So IMHO the whole premise is wrong.


9 posted on 05/11/2011 6:50:51 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Trump’s a moron for even using the word torture.


10 posted on 05/11/2011 7:11:08 PM PDT by Melas
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