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To: OldDeckHand

He is, at common law, entitled to some parental rights even in 1961.
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Source ???

for Barrys case...

INS didnt believe Obama SR...

Which court case recognized his rights under “common law”

in 1961 onloy the mother would have had any “rights”” over Barry


49 posted on 05/10/2011 7:28:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana
"Source ???"

Source? LOL - You have offered a host of ridiculously absurd comments had not offered a SINGLE legal cite. Puhleeze.

"INS didnt believe Obama SR..."

Says a gut who's trying to sell a book. Imagine that.

Here are the facts - Barack Obama's father was listed on his birth certificate. Barack Obama Sr and Stanley Ann Dunham were married in the US prior to Obama Jr's birth.

Was Obama already married to someone else? Who knows and who cares. It's irrelevant in the context of this discussion. Why? Because Obama was never convicted of bigamy, nor had Dunham presented the issue to court to have her marriage declared void ab initio. Instead, she elected to pursue a standard divorce. Again, why? Because she wouldn't find out that Sr. never divorced from his first wife until "years later".

"in 1961 only the mother would have had any “rights”” over Barry"

In 1961, in most states, the unmarried mother would only have the presumption of custodial rights. That doesn't mean the father who's listed on the birth certificate wouldn't have any parental rights. But, whatever the status of the parental rights of a unwed father were or were not in 1960s Haiwaii, is WHOLLY irrelevant to this situation. Why? Because in the eyes of the state of HI, Barack Obama Sr. was the natural father.

"Obama SR didnt havew anty rights to lose"

You might want to read Armstrong v. Manzo, 380 U.S. 545 (1965). It's instructive here.

'1. In 1961 a legally unrelated/unmarried man would not have been signing a BC...no marriage certificate"

Citation?

And, whatever the accuracy of that HIGHLY dubious claim may (or may not) be, it's again irrelevant to this situation as Dunham and Obama were married in HI, and that marriage was presumptively valid until a court declared otherwise. Do you have any evidence that a court voided that marriage prior to either Obama's birth, or Obama's alleged adoption by his step-parent.

I'll give birthers credit for this - they are some of the most wildly creative people alive.

59 posted on 05/10/2011 8:59:40 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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