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Afterbirther Nation: A Civil Disagreement Meets The Born Identity
Conservative Refocus ^ | 05/09/11 | Barry Secrest

Posted on 05/09/2011 1:22:56 PM PDT by Barry Secrest

The joke goes something to the effect of "Can you name the three differences between God and Obama?" The answers are "Neither have a birth certificate, God is satisfied with 10%, and God doesn't think he's Obama."

...Surprisingly, the caustically vocal Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter, two women who have always commanded our respect, despite a great deal of their oft considered lunatic ravings by the Left, have essentially insulted a large number of normal Americans from their acid denigration against those who simply ask the birth certificate question. Are we to assume that these two lovely ladies hold the sole authoritative positions for coming up with "nutty" conspiracy theories? The answer must now be "apparently."

In this case, however, and going against our normal traditions, we were meaningfully surprised. It's more than fine if our Conservative Consuela's do not always agree with us; however, these two have picked up squarely where the mainstream media leaves off when they begin denigrating the positions of a large number of Americans who simply do not know, one way or the other.

Both Malkin and Colter, it's quite interesting to note, have been at the forefront of insisting that virtually everything from the Left, and more specifically Obama, are nothing but lies built upon lies, to which we cannot disagree one bit at this point. But then, a material issue comes along which simply reeks of duplicity, and which has also raised extreme doubt among the masses, only to mysteriously dissolve into a non-issue for our two honored champions of the nay-sayers, which also reeks, in my opinion.

In fact, Colter and Malkin have often indirectly raised cain and lashed into their fanbases for Birther offenses only to get predictably creamed by their fans in retaliative response. Fanbases which, by the way,...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: binladen; birthcertificate; certifigate; conservatives; donaldtrump
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1 posted on 05/09/2011 1:23:00 PM PDT by Barry Secrest
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To: Barry Secrest

I can’t help but believe that conservatives like Ann and Michelle who ridicule doubters have commercial reasons for doing so.

It is correct that they assail Obama for lying just about every time he opens his mouth and yet accept his phoney-baloney documents.

Very inconsistent and, to me, very suspicious. Sounds like they have been told to stay out of it by some powerful people who don’t want any government scrutiny or increased regulation.


2 posted on 05/09/2011 1:30:43 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Scanian

Then they should come right out and tell the truth why they want people to stop instead of writing crap.

The birth certificate is a legitimate question to ask. Don’t forget Hillary wouldn’t release things too and lied every turn of the way. Leopards don’t change their spots. The Democrats have given us nothing but losers.


3 posted on 05/09/2011 1:44:13 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Scanian
have essentially insulted a large number of normal Americans from their acid denigration against those who simply ask the birth certificate question

It's not that those normal Americans simply ask the birth certificate question that annoys so many conservatives, it's the simple fact that IT'S THE ONLY QUESTION YOU ASK!!!! And now the msm is playing it up as the only question the Tea Party, Conservatives and Republicans have. They don't even use the term Birther anymore. If this is what you set out to do, you've done it.

4 posted on 05/09/2011 1:57:49 PM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: Dixie Yooper

“IT’S THE ONLY QUESTION YOU ASK”

I assume that by “YOU” you mean the media?


5 posted on 05/09/2011 2:00:41 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Barry Secrest
Who has standing to sue?

ACLU lawyers suing to remove every molecule of religion from the public view, even if they aren't harmed in any way? -- Standing to Sue.

Citizens of the United States who have to live under the bills signed into law by (p)resident Obama? -- No Standing to Sue.

6 posted on 05/09/2011 2:01:03 PM PDT by sportutegrl (It's a Constitutional thing, you wouldn't understand.)
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To: Barry Secrest

Colter, Malkin, and the rest of the conservative pundit crowd, who are too sophisticated to want to know what Obama is hiding, don’t bother me. I’ll skip some of or maybe all of their books, and otherwise go on my merry way, none the worse for it. ...After looking at the second fraudulent attempt to dupe the dupes, I wonder if it is possible to know anything true about our Liar in Chief. I’m sure there is no trusting the integrity of our media, including conservative pundits who aren’t just a little curious about the curiosities. Conspiracy theories are sophomoric and all that, but come on.... The only thing more ridiculous than believing people conspire to do wrong is pretending it never happens when politicians and media are involved. ...Oh yes, of course, there are those serious folks who are above the fray, pointing out that trivialities like Barry’s Constitutional qualifications take away from the more pressing issues. No they don’t, no more than social issues like abortion take away from tax schemes. It all has its place in conservatism.


7 posted on 05/09/2011 2:18:19 PM PDT by pallis
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To: Barry Secrest
The question always avoided is why the fight, the money spend the lies told (CNN once said in was destroyed in a fire)the laws pasted, the race cards played (your racist to ask)...for FOUR YEARS!.... to not release what would seem to be such a simple trivial document that most all have and can been had with a few bucks and a form letter normally

If asking for it was nutty...then the efforts fighting it's release have to viewed as insanity ...why fight it....it was the fight, the delay that raised the questions and still does....

No matter what you might think of the sanity of the original people asking the question four years ago(release the long form BC)...there is no logical rational reason for the Obama people to fight so long and hard not to release it

8 posted on 05/09/2011 2:25:53 PM PDT by tophat9000 (.............................. BP + BO = BS ...........................Formula for a disaster...)
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To: danamco; LucyT

Ping!!!


10 posted on 05/09/2011 2:36:13 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: danamco

They do some good work for conservatism and have had to endure harassment at appearances but they really do seem to know which side their bread is buttered on.

I don’t have a problem with that. But they should watch the self-righteousness. It doesn’t look good on anybody-—not even those babes.

(BTW, Iam a libertarian and I believe in legalizing prostitution and pot. But if you’re a ho, at least admit you’re a ho.)


11 posted on 05/09/2011 2:37:41 PM PDT by Scanian
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12 posted on 05/09/2011 2:43:40 PM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: tophat9000

The same guy who wants the world to think that he approved the military offing of Bin Laden sent a decorated military officer to prison for 6 months rather than show his “embarrassing” birth certificate.

Nobody has bothered to ask him what is so “embarrassing” on the BC he presented, that it was worth pissing on a US war vet to keep it hidden.

Nor has anybody asked where the “half-handwritten” part that former HDOH director Chiyome Fukino referred to.

What Obama has presented not only shows signs of forgery AND lacks the certifying raised seal that makes it worth anything more than Monopoly money.... it also contradicts the descriptions of both Fukino and Obama’s lawyers themselves (in official court filings).

Yet nobody in the state-run or “conservative” media will point that out, or ask for an explanation for these glaring discrepancies. Instead, they ridicule the people who notice such “technical” details (such as whether it is actually even a legal, certified document as claimed).

Coulter and Malkin are associated with Fox so they were probably among those told that they, their careers, and their families could be history if they reported on the eligibility issue. Malkin in particular may feel that threat keenly, as her niece disappeared (don’t know whether she’s been found yet or not). Obama’s lawyers, at the urging of Soros, Axelrod, and Emanuel, threatened the media heads with annihilation via FCC and anti-monopoly measures if they allowed anybody on-air to report on the eligibility issue. That threat was made once in Oct 2008 and at least once after the election as well. Doug Hagmann has evidence of that, including a statement signed by one of the talk show hosts who had the threat passed on to him. A starting place is at http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373

All the more reason this whole stinking thing needs to be investigated. These ladies doth protest too much, since we can be pretty sure that, as regular contributors on Fox, they had the threats passed on to them and KNOW this is not just a distraction or stupid issue. O’Reilly and Beck too. They all know this is serious enough business for Soros et al to commit blackmail/extortion/threats over it.


13 posted on 05/09/2011 3:09:29 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Barry Secrest

Pretty unreadable blog style there Barry.


14 posted on 05/09/2011 3:12:17 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Barry Secrest

Typical lib banter, examine the behavior, the “why’s”, mental make-up of their opponents, or compare/contrast disagreeing parties among the opponents to discredit, etc. The actual facts and arguments on the merits of the greater subject in question is conveniently and obviously ignored, suddenly the lib “analysis” disappears. Ha ha ha.

Typical. And once again, we smell fear.


16 posted on 05/09/2011 3:53:43 PM PDT by TheBigJ
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To: butterdezillion
"The same guy who wants the world to think that he approved the military offing of Bin Laden sent a decorated military officer to prison for 6 months rather than show his “embarrassing” birth certificate."

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17 posted on 05/09/2011 3:58:16 PM PDT by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: danamco

Hahaha. Let me guess-—you are Norwegian, aren’t you?

See Murphy, Eddie. Velvet Jones. “Be a HO. Increase your income in the confines of your own home. Be a ho”

If you think I’m queer why don’t you pick up the phone and tell me so? That number is there to resolve beefs and it sure sounds like YOU have one.


18 posted on 05/09/2011 4:29:32 PM PDT by Scanian
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To: Barry Secrest
There is a place where "extra-terrestrial" life and politics will join together, if you believe in the Bible as prophetic. The same can be said for the Koran. As a matter of fact, people are praying in Christianity and Islam, every day for this or these "others" to appear. How can we have one of these "superior beings" to rule over us, if they must be natural born citizens to do so? Is it possible that our "elites" already know and have communicated with these "beings"? The way must be paved, and what better way to deceive than to come "in peace", "from above", to save humanity?

I know people will absolutely ridicule the premise of my words, but many will actually ponder whether it is possible, or true. Others that are inclined to believe, will not do so because they are waiting for a "rapture" first. What if the "Church" is to go through the "time of testing"? If you believe it will happen someday, why not soon? If it is soon, why wouldn't our "superiors" already be part of the deception, and spending like there is no tomorrow?

Call me a K.O.O.K. if you will, but there is truth in there. The time may not be close, it may be centuries off, but either you BELIEVE judgement and a falling away will come, or you don't. The manner of it is just too spectacular and strange for some to believe, that is the truth. Just the fact that believers will make fun of these words, betrays that they don't really believe after all.

19 posted on 05/09/2011 4:59:53 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: butterdezillion; tophat9000

Is there any question at all WHO in particular that the CFP is referring to???

Interesting that they were NOT able to silencing Donald Trump on that same issue, but now when they “took” out(?) OBL, everything is just honky dory!!!


20 posted on 05/09/2011 5:56:16 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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