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To: LonePalm

Once you are set up for them, couldn’t wind or solar energy be considered “free”? Kinda the same thing.


14 posted on 05/03/2011 6:53:42 AM PDT by badgerlandjim
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To: badgerlandjim

“Once you are set up for them, couldn’t wind or solar energy be considered “free”? Kinda the same thing.”

Both wind and solar do indeed have nuclear fusion as their source of energy. (the sun)


17 posted on 05/03/2011 6:58:27 AM PDT by babygene (Figures don't lie, but liars can figure...)
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To: badgerlandjim
Once you are set up for them, couldn’t wind or solar energy be considered “free”? Kinda the same thing.

The total cost of an energy source is roughly composed of the capital costs, the operation/maintenance costs, and the fuel costs. Even with fuel cost being zero, you have capital costs (which are very high for solar/wind) and maintenance/operation costs (solar panels don't work well unless kept clean, wind generators have moving parts that need to be looked after)

20 posted on 05/03/2011 7:33:07 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: badgerlandjim; babygene
There is an initial investment in the generating unit. I would like to know what the payback period is, given a particular required return on investment. What is the investment cost per unit of energy provided? (How much capital do I have to tie up to reduce some other expense?) What are the disposal costs? What are the other life-cycle costs involved?

I am pretty sure that there are ongoing maintenance costs. I know that there are with wind units.

Even wind units take energy out of the system, reducing the effectiveness of units behind them. They also take up space that could be used for other purposes and generate low frequency noise that annoy some people.

NOTHING IS FREE!!!! It might have a very low relative cost but it is not FREE.

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30 posted on 05/03/2011 8:55:40 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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