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To: justiceseeker93; Red Steel; Danae; butterdezillion; rxsid; Fred Nerks; David; thouworm; patlin; ...

I thought she did a credible job, as I listened to the CSPAN video.

I also caught something that deJute (US Atty) said, when asked by a judge: what would be the appropriate time to challenge?

His response: the election.

We seem to have one coming up...


146 posted on 05/05/2011 6:26:27 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: STARWISE

So there is another hearing after this one? I have not been following this one too closely....


148 posted on 05/05/2011 9:19:22 PM PDT by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: STARWISE; rxsid

Even if the fed attorney was referring to a candidate’s right to timely protest the eligibility of another primary candidate, the attorney conveniently made no mention of the fact that Congress, in order to perform its duty during the 12th A’s Joint Session, empowered itself via statute to challenge a President elect’s eligibility.

That leads to what may be one of plaintiff’s arguments - until the Joint Session closed, a court could conclude Congress had not yet completed its statutory procedure and judicial intervention was premature and improper. I.e., no triable issue arose until after the Joint Session.

Under that view, the objective would be to obtain meaningful court involvement subsequent to the Session and sufficiently in advance of the first day of the term of office.

The problem now, of course, is that he is the President and the only branch able to remove him is Congress. The best any court can do is to hand down a felony conviction or confirm that NBC requires two citizen parents, in which case Congress will be embarrassed if it takes no action.


150 posted on 05/05/2011 9:34:58 PM PDT by frog in a pot (There is a reason U.S. birth certificates designate the birthplace of the parents.)
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To: rxsid; STARWISE

Now that I have read rxsid’s #145 - never mind.


151 posted on 05/05/2011 9:57:41 PM PDT by frog in a pot (There is a reason U.S. birth certificates designate the birthplace of the parents.)
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To: STARWISE; bushpilot1; rxsid; Red Steel; edge919; Spaulding; Danae; Fred Nerks; wintertime; ...
Manual of the Constitution of the United States of America By Timothy Farrar (1867)

CHAPTER X.

SECURITY OF LIBERTY.

§ 104. The sixth and last of the avowed purposes of the people in the establishment of their government, and for the accomplishment of which they of course intend their government shall be responsible, is “ to secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity.” Here the last and most valued of the natural and constitutional rights of the people is placed, expressly for security and safety, directly under the care and guardianship of the government of the United States. The provision is afterwards supported and assisted by an auxiliary Article, recognizing the common-law right to personal freedom, and perpetuating the common-law remedy, by habeas corpus, against its infringement ; and by another, making a direct and absolute prohibition of any deprivation of it, otherwise than by due process of law. That, in the ‘middle of the third generation after the adoption of such a Constitution by the American people , there should have existed in their midst four millions of people, partly of their own posterity, mostly natural-born citizens of the United States, and universally resident inhabitants of the land, subject to its government and entitled to its protection

http://books.google.com/books?printsec=frontcover&dq=Manual%20of%20the%20Constitution%20of%20the%20United%20States%20of%20America&ei=_9aDTY3xJcnVgQe80-HCCA&ct=result&id=63FDAAAAIAAJ&output=text&pg=PA133

So there we have it. Natural born are those born (their Posterity) to American citizens AFTER the adoption of the US Constitution. Children born to foreigners need not apply for the presidency.

153 posted on 05/06/2011 5:31:18 AM PDT by patlin ("Knowledge is a powerful source that is 2nd to none but God" ConstitutionallySpeaking 2011)
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