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To: AndrewC
Remember,

cronos: I'm talking about the entire BA philosophy which expunges and belittles scholarship -- as an adverse reaction to Calvinism's human logic reducto

andrew: f you mean ignoring scholarship as a requirement for salvation is belittling scholarship, well sorry then you must accept it. God does not require a cap and gown for entry into heaven.

That is the other extreme -- the Calvinist extreme that I pointed out. As I said, the BA version is the adverse reaction to the extremes of Calvinism, which, as you correctly point out is wrong as God does not require a cap and gown for entry into heaven

However, the position taken by the BAs is also wrong -- for the opposite reason. There is to be a balance, my friend, not this wild swinging from side to side remember God Himself gave a clear picture in the Gospels in Mk 16:16, Lk 13:3, Jn 6:54, Matt 23:13 which are Jesus's own words telling us that

  1. He who believes
  2. and is baptized will be saved.
  3. [U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish
  4. [H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day
  5. he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved

These are the Lord's very own words His very own statements, exhortations, commands.

this is not the philosophy or wisdom of men, this what God Himself has commanded.

3,559 posted on 06/18/2011 12:25:31 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: AndrewC
Please do note as I said about God Himself gave a clear picture in the Gospels in Mk 16:16, Lk 13:3, Jn 6:54, Matt 23:13 --> these are the direct words of Jesus Christ, our Lord, God and Savior commanding us that he who believes, is baptised (in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) for the remission of sins, who truly repents of his/her sins, who eats of His flesh and who endureth to the end, they shall be saved. If not they will perish

These are not the words of man, not even the inspired words of Paul or the Apostles, but these are the direct, crystal-clear words from GOD HIMSELF.

3,560 posted on 06/18/2011 12:34:13 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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