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To: AndrewC
Remember, again -- as I said, no one is denying that one MUST have faith to be saved by the freely given grace of salvation, however, it is not faith ALONE, it is GRACE alone -- your works don't save you, Jesus' sacrifice does. As shown above, Jesus Himself said that
  1. He who believes and is baptized will be saved. (Mk 16:16)
  2. [U]nless you repent you will all likewise perish. (Lk 13:3)
  3. [H]e who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day. (Jn 6:54)

These are Jesus' own words -- HE provides the grace of salvation, it was HIS sacrifice that saves us, we cannot save ourselves. And HE has told us what we need to do, not just "Lord, Lord", but the above

3,551 posted on 06/17/2011 11:45:16 PM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos
however, it is not faith ALONE, it is GRACE alone

So then why did the thief even speak? And the scriptures do not indicate the thief was baptized nor that he ate or drank anything while hanging mext to Jesus.

HE provides the grace of salvation, it was HIS sacrifice that saves us, we cannot save ourselves

Absolutely true. The only "unless" in the list you gave was item 2.

Luk 23:41 And we indeed justly; for we receive the due reward of our deeds: but this man hath done nothing amiss.

Luk 23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom

3,556 posted on 06/18/2011 12:07:08 AM PDT by AndrewC
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