[AndrewC]

they know "born again" is just a mistranslation of what Jesus said.

You gotta be kiddin' me!

So this is made up?:

Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

[getoffmylawn]

You gotta be kiddin' me!

Nope. I'm not kidding you.

Here's Kosta's explanation...

In fact the whole John 3:3-4 is suspect because such pun, even if it were, could not have been understood as such by Nicodemus in Aramaic because in Aramaic the word 'from above' and 'again' are not even close. And it's a real stretch to even imply that Jesus used a really strange Greek hyperbole to a member of the Sanhedrin. John made it up. I know this is sacrilege to most people, especially, because "born again" is the cornerstone for some Christians, but the conversation simply never took place. It's a tale John made up.

[Elsie]

How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Cowboy wisdom: Never ride upstream after drinking from the creek.