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To: James C. Bennett; metmom; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; Colofornian; aMorePerfectUnion
So, how does God order sequential events without time? If time does not separate God's actions, then the actions all superpose - thus God would end up creating the Universe and destroying it, simultaneously. It is only time that can save God from this absurdity. Without time, God cannot avoid the absurdity. So, what is in the realm of what? Clearly God, in that of time.

Pssssssst james - if God created time, then God is powerful enough to control it to his ends. Truly you have no clue as to what it means for God to be all powerful and knowing - attributes you fail to include in your little thought experiment. You assume God is subject to time. I state that it is the biblical understanding that time is subject to God. Thus there is no paradox involving the creation and eventual replacement of the universe.

2,689 posted on 06/10/2011 5:00:13 PM PDT by Godzilla (3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla; kosta50; LeGrande

Pssssssst James - if God created time, then God is powerful enough to control it to his ends.

Pssssst Godzilla, if this deity "created time", then how did it pick a moment to "create time"? With an "earlier" time?


:^)

Truly you have no clue as to what it means for God to be all powerful and knowing - attributes you fail to include in your little thought experiment. You assume God is subject to time.

God being all-powerful doesn't allow God to peform an absurdity, Godzilla. You should know that. Truly you have no clue in understanding that even God has limitations.

Let me share a comment from another thread, to illustrate my point:

To: Tennessee Nana
NOTHING is IMPOSSIBLE for God Luke 1:37

NOT TRUE. G-d can not lie. G-d can not decieve. G-d can not break His own Torah. G-d can not be immoral.

All of which christianity teaches if you accept A) human sacrifice B) human vicarious atonement C) Replacement of the Law D) etc... 

160 posted on Thu Jun 09 2011 18:31:12 GMT-0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) by blasater1960 (Deut 30, Psalm 111...the Torah and the Law, is attainable past, present and forever.)

I state that it is the biblical understanding that time is subject to God. Thus there is no paradox involving the creation and eventual replacement of the universe.

Ignoring the inevitability of the absurdity doesn't allow the absurdity to go away, Godzilla.

If God is not subject to time, then God cannot separate God's sequential acts. Is this too hard to understand, Godzilla? Think about it for a while. God doesn't just want time to separate God's actions, but God NEEDS it. Without time separating God's sequential acts, Godzilla, God ends up creating and destroying the Universe, simultaneously. Do you understand this, Godzilla? If you don't, specifically point out the fallacy in this argument.

I repeat, specifically.


 
 

2,696 posted on 06/10/2011 5:40:09 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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