Posted on 05/01/2011 7:24:18 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
Again, how could mistranslation occur when John was writing under "inspiration"? The fact is that John 3:3-4 cannot be retrotranslated into Aramaic and make any sense. Thus, either John mistranslated under "inspiration" or he made it up.
This country wasn't founded on logic or the concept of proof.
It was founded on the principles and precepts of the very Bible you and other atheists despise and disparage.
We are endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights. Those rights and the value we have as human beings is a result of the belief system you mock. They are not based on *proof* or*logic*. Proof and logic cannot impute intrinsic value to a human being.
They cannot grant rights. They cannot declare all men equal.
When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
That only shows it based on someone’s interpretation.
It does not make it real for the other person.
There is no way for you to communicate what you feel to another, even if it can be demonstrated by actions which you claim show it.
You demand proof of God and God’s love from those who have experienced it and they can no more convey the experience of that love than you can convey to them your experience of someone else’s love or your love for someone else.
By the same standard you use, I can declare your love towards another as not real and not valid because you cannot convey to me the emotions you experience yourself. Claiming that your actions demonstrate your love does not transmit the love itself and validate it to another. It does not make the love you have real to the observer. They’re still on the outside looking on.
Touche’
Not only that, but they demand proof under their own qualifications for proof. The trouble with that way of thinking is simply that God HAS already told us that he requires faith in order to please him. Without faith, no one can "see" God. The dilemma then is a battle of wills. The atheist/agnostic on one side demanding visual, verifiable, somewhat nebulous proof and on the other side is the Almighty Creator of all things saying he demands faith first. Someone has to give in, and it ain't gonna be God, I know that much. So the choice is really up to the person. Do it your way and NEVER know truth or do it God's way and know what you desire to know.
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry.(I Samuel 15:23)
This is disgusting and very un-American.
How so?
Show me where I’m wrong.
U never demanded proof of God's love form God or from anyone. You are making things up (again).
By the same standard you use, I can declare your love towards another as not real and not valid because you cannot convey to me the emotions you experience yourself
God's existence is not an emotion. It's either a hypothesis or a fact. if it is a fact then it should be provable.
Prove your service to your country to us.
Prove that you are mother. I don't' believe the likes of you could conceive.
Of course, if we were to divulge our identities that would be no problem, so your request and my request are not doable here but they are provable. Betty Boop said God's existence is not provable.
You have yet to prove that you are a Christian.
No, boatbums. rea,l things are provable for all. I don;t have to device my own special emthod to prove that you will sink if you try to wlak on water. I will sink just the same. That's relaity. Either God exists or doesn't. IF you say he doe,s then you should be able to prove it whtout special "qulificaitons of proof". reality doens;t recongize believers and nonbeievers. It affects all equally.
Not only that, but they demand proof under their own qualifications for proof
No, boatbums. real things are provable for all. I don't have to device my own special method to prove that you will sink if you try to walk on water. I will sink just the same. That's realty. Either God exists or doesn't. IF you say he doe,s then you should be able to prove it without special "qualifications of proof". reality doens't recognize believers and nonbelievers. It affects all equally.
Prove that you are a mom.
Prove your service to this country.
You claimed it to be real.
You have shown the utmost contempt for bb on this forum with your comment in post 3,498 when you said, “No, I only despise people like you, betty boop because you have no shame. “ And then appealed to your service to our country, as if you expected us to recognize and acknowledge it as valid on your say so alone.
Well, your say so is not good enough. Prove your service to our country.
Prove that you are a mom.
Yeah, that’s a fencing term. Since you like to say, “Prove it”, welllll...sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander.
No, you won't even disclose your personal denomination because you feel it's too personal. Metmom's request is a violation of privacy.
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