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1 posted on 04/30/2011 1:34:09 PM PDT by RGT
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The only problem with hitting the BC issue so hard is that this is not the first time in history that issue has surfaced. There are two relatively recent incidents that involve Republicans. George Romney, Mitt’s father, was running in the primaries against Nixon when the issue was raised that he was born in Mexico and did not move to the US until he was 5. Closer at hand is John McCain who was born in Panama. This issue is far from settled law.


2 posted on 04/30/2011 1:42:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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This is compelling enough for me to believe the BC is BS.
http://wheresobamasbirthcertificate.com/blog/?p=12


3 posted on 04/30/2011 1:42:18 PM PDT by Wilderness Conservative
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I have no real opinion on the produced BC by the 0bama campaign. But its being published by his campaign puts all kinds of pressure on the State of Hawaii. If what 0bama has held up is not identical to the one in their records the State of Hawaii will have become co-conspirators with one of the biggest frauds ever perpetrated on the public in all of history.


4 posted on 04/30/2011 1:45:09 PM PDT by Truth is a Weapon (If I weren't afraid of the feds, I would refer to Obama as our "undocumented POTUS")
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Naysayers likes SNOPES.com? They still claim a Dr. West was the one who delivered Obama and gave that bit of news to a friend at dinner: “Stanly had a baby “today”.

Problem is Obama was born at 7:24pm and Dr. West is not the one listed on the newly released BC.

Is SNOPES, the liberal debunking website, telling a lie?


5 posted on 04/30/2011 1:46:12 PM PDT by icwhatudo ("laws requiring compulsory abortion could be sustained under the constitution"-Obama official)
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Dingle Barry did NOT provide a birth certificate, he provided an electronic facsimile (maybe) of a alleged birth certificate..

Unlike literally every other presidential candidate who provided the real thing.. a birth certificate..

6 posted on 04/30/2011 1:47:46 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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It’s a doctored, Photoshopped, phony, fraudulent, fake.


12 posted on 04/30/2011 1:58:02 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common anymore.)
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Many experts say its real, many say it is not.
My problem with it is, his father's race is listed as African - there is no such race.
The hospital never was called as it is named on the BC.
Other than that its just fine.
13 posted on 04/30/2011 2:00:05 PM PDT by svcw (Non forgiveness is like holding a hot coal thinking the other person will be blistered)
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"It looks real so it must be real"? Really? Give me 10 minutes and I can produce a realistic-looking BC proving me to be the real Santa Claus.

I want to see the people who produced this document (found it, printed it, etc.) interviewed (by real journalists - you know, the ones who want the REAL truth) and explain how and where they found the document and what they did to get it to zero.

15 posted on 04/30/2011 2:04:59 PM PDT by jeffc (Prayer. It's freedom of speech.)
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No conclusive or compelling evidence to disprove it. It must be real.

There is no record of a birth to Stanley Ann Dunham/Obama ever at any hospital in HI.

This states that it is an "abstract". They did not certify this is the BC of Obama.

It says his father is an English citizen which excludes the son from the status of "natural born" citizen as the Constitution requires. (small detail)

It lists a hospital. But I suspect it was an "exam" not a birth at that hospital (assuming even that happened.) Birth location still unknown. Same with the Doctor (Sinclair), not the one they had previously stated delivered him (Dr. West). Too many lies.

The State of HI Dept. of Health has been playing Legal Weasel Word Games with us for 3 years, do you think this is different?

Like Lucy and Charlie Brown with the football. This time Charlie I will not move the ball! hee hee hee Lots of luck Charlie!

16 posted on 04/30/2011 2:09:09 PM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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Hey, Obama has lied before about his bc. What’s to prevent him from lying about this one?

I don’t believe anything he says or does.


20 posted on 04/30/2011 2:14:31 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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“It MUST be real.” “It BETTER be real.”

Uh, yeah. And Hussein MUST be a PATRIOT and BETTER be a patriot, ‘cept he AIN’T!!! Who wrote this little piece—and when will he be out of the third grade?


26 posted on 04/30/2011 2:32:14 PM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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Fake or not the media went along with the lie that Obama has given all the proof he needs to.

Then comes this long form.

Anyone in the media that went along with this lie should have zero creditability left.

31 posted on 04/30/2011 3:00:38 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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I was puttering around in the yard earlier today, going over some new fencing and came across some sort of rood cross-section.
It appears to be a large piece of the true cross.

It looks real.

It has real information.

No conclusive or compelling evidence to disprove it.

It must be real.

Let’s talk price.


33 posted on 04/30/2011 3:06:23 PM PDT by tumblindice ("It's fake, but accurate.")
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Who this goof is that wrote this piece is a Joke. Helping the MSM. I’m embarrassed by “our Side” (whatever that means). They are eager for an Obama re-election. Should just let the issue slide and move on if they have nothing of substance to add. It’s like they were paid to help the DNC.


35 posted on 04/30/2011 3:10:52 PM PDT by Mozilla
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Whoever this goof is that wrote this piece is a Joke. Helping the MSM. I’m embarrassed by “our Side” (whatever that means). They are eager for an Obama re-election. Should just let the issue slide and move on if they have nothing of substance to add. It’s like they were paid to help the DNC.


36 posted on 04/30/2011 3:10:56 PM PDT by Mozilla
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Why I Became a Birther

Obama had a wonderful narriative about how he came to be, full of stories about hope and possibility. Stump speeches full of anecdotes from his past combined with his two autobiographies gave us all we needed to know about his background. There was only one slight problem: Too many of his stories turned out to be false.

There was the story about how his grandfather liberated the Jews at Auschwitz concentration camp, or the story of how his parents met in Selma, Alabama during the civil rights struggle, for example. Both turned out to be falsehoods.

Everything else about his background is either proven false or unverifiable due to all documentation being hidden. No wonder so many began to question the official story. Obama may be perfectly legit, but we may never know the truth. We only know what he wants us to know and very little of that story holds up.

49 posted on 04/30/2011 3:59:36 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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53 posted on 04/30/2011 4:49:09 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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