Posted on 04/30/2011 10:59:37 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
Obama has now personally and publicly acknowledged, albeit with the ‘silliness’ of an eight-year-old with a crayon and a piece of security paper*, that he is not a natural born Citizen – as defined by the Constitution:
1. Article II, Section 1:5 says that only a ‘natural born Citizen’ shall be eligible to the Office of President; 2. Article I, Section 8 says that Congress (under the authority granted by the People) shall have the power to… define and punish… Offenses against the Law of Nations; 3. The Law of Nations says that:
1.‘The natives, or natural born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens’; 2.‘As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights’; 3.‘The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children’; 4.‘To be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.’ Now that Congress has been made fully (and publicly) aware that an ineligible non-natural born Citizen is occupying the Office of President and Commander in Chief (they could not be so stupid as to not know – see ‘Something Stupid This Way Comes’), it becomes incumbent upon them to begin impeachment proceedings immediately, lest their failure to act previously – or especially now that they and the whole world knows – makes them chargeable with Misprision of Treason.
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Because 50% of the U.S. put him there.
bttt
mark steyn says this is nuts.
Because most Americans think that natural born simply means born on American soil. They are apparently ok with an anchor baby in the white house too.
He was an anchor baby. That was the law and is the law.
Give it a rest, any remaining Birthers are seen as people who also think they were abducted by aliens.
This is political judo — the issue was working for him since the election, Trump turned it around, then the TOTUS-reader’s handlers turned it back for him by giving what was requested.
Just remember, Steyn is not Natural Born, and simply wrong on this issue.
I believe President Arthur had a foreign born parent
Another good reason people should LET IT GO.
I agree with you.
There’s no meat on this particular bone. Move on.
50% of the VOTERS put him there. (Including fraud of prob about 6-8%)
Because, if God and Satan were running against each other
this country would elect Satan.
We are a that tipping point.
Give it a rest, any remaining Birthers are seen as people who also think they were abducted by aliens.
Thank you. Part of me wishes these birther stories would be purged from this site because they're making the rest of us look like morons.
US citizenship law distinguishes between birth citizenship and naturalized citizenship. There's no distinction within those who were born as US citizens as to whether they are are natural born or not. For anyone who believes otherwise, please post the valid sections of US code which back up that argument.
0bama was born in Hawaii to a woman who was a US citizen. He is a natural-born citizen. We don't like that, but it is the truth. Case closed.
Why?
Why can’t we talk about more than one reason Obama shouldn’t be President at the same time? The fact that he’s gone to great trouble to conceal all of his records and only now has finally released an electronic document that doesn’t prove anything is yet another reason he had to go in 2012.
If anyone here can do anything about the $150 million/hour spending that was the focus of the Steyn whine, great - do it.
Meanwhile, many who are powerless to control Congressional spending right now will talk about the BC and other Obama secrets.
The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 makes him a citizen at birth. You’ll find it in the third major section of the law, the section beginning with 300, Nationality.
There’s nothing wrong with needling him about being born in Kenya, but an understanding of the facts at issue is important.
This is the heart of your question.
I think that the information we have is such that there are two possible opinions on this topic.
The first is that our president's father may not have been legally married to our president's mother (as he had an earlier wife in Kenya). If that is the case would a single mother giving birth in the USA to a child not have that child be “naturally born?” Remember your argument seems to hinge on our president being born in a way that he had dual citizenship. If there are dual citizenship records for him, then yes, he is not a natural born citizen. If there aren't then he might be argue that his father's marriage to his mother was not legal and so he was a full US citizen at birth by an American mother within the USA.
Second, the question is what is a natural born citizen. We know what the Original Constitutional provision states and if there was a legal marriage and he had dual citizenship, then yes, I think perhaps he should not be eligible to be President under the Constitution as it was written long ago. But there have been amendments and there have been interpretations by the courts of citizenship and some of them use the terms natural born citizen. Under some of those changes that I have read, one could make a compelling argument that our president is eligible to be in the White House (as despicable and incapable as he may be).
I think folks would spend better time checking out his early school records to see if he claimed to be a foreign national, if he had a non-US passport, and why he seems to have had multiple social security numbers.
As to natural born, I will leave that one along, as I between what has been produced (which I believe was doctored) and the INS report on his father that says he had a child in Hawaii, are pretty compelling (although I do want to read the new book out to find out what has been found by that Harvard graduate in his research.)
Call me a rule of law (as amended and interpreted by the courts) kind of guy.
right on post #2 !
is steyn running for president?
did the Founders really declare independence becuz GEorge III spoke German ?
Please post the pertinent sections of US code which back up the notion that someone who has a father that was born abroad is not a natural born citizen.
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