Interesting. No doubt, Mark's net contribution to the world far exceeds that of his more famous relative.
Posted on 04/24/2011 1:22:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters
The lone Republican in the Hawaii State Senate told a radio interviewer today he believes "the real issue" stopping Barack Obama from releasing his long-form birth certificate is something the president has to hide, perhaps even the name of his actual birth father.
Hawaii State Sen. Sam Slom further told the host of "Aaron Klein Investigative Radio" on WABC 770 AM in New York City that so long as Obama refuses to be transparent about his past, questions about the president's birth remain "a legitimate issue."
"My particular point of view – and why I haven't identified myself as a 'birther,' per se – is that [Obama] probably was born [in Hawaii] and that the real issue is not the birth certificate, but what's on the birth certificate," Slom told Klein.
Asked what that could be, Slom said, "It could have to do with what his name is on the birth certificate, who is actually listed as his father, the citizenship of the father."
He continued, "My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn't want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it's his school records, it's employment records. … Why would anybody, let alone the president of the United States, spend millions of dollars in legal fees to keep that hidden?"
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Here is the U.S. Immigration Law that covers the issue of children born abroad to 1 citizen and 1 alien.
http://library.uwb.edu/guides/USimmigration/66%20stat%20163.pdf
the McCarran-Walter Act, the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952
Public law 82-414 Chapter 1 Section 301 (7)
This applies to Obozo, assuming he is the son of Barrack H. Obama, Sr. and that he was born abroad.
If born abroad with the stated father, he is not even a U.S. Citizen.....
True that. But did you ever figure out why that was necessary?
And, I have yet to see anything in law that convinces me that anyone other than a person born in the U.S. to parents who are both U.S. Citizens can be a "natural born" citizen.
Interesting. No doubt, Mark's net contribution to the world far exceeds that of his more famous relative.
You don’t seriously expect a federal law like HIPAA to be rational, do you? It’s as convoluted and cumbersome and as much a PITA as any other federal law.
My guess (and that’s all it is) is that the hospital’s lawyers OK’ed the letter to be read because the hospital isn’t the source of the information - the writer of the letter is. They may have had his permission to read it - but that’s not the same as permission to confirm or deny the content. If a hospital employee says, “What’s in the letter is true (or false),” then THAT information comes from the hospital and is in violation of the law.
My experience with HIPAA is that in order to get a provider to release information, they want very specific written permission.
Here’s my real-life example of HIPAA in action: I want a print of my husband’s X-ray that was taken in January. He has to sign a document that expressly gives them permission to release THAT particular record to ME. Then, I can get that X-ray. They won’t give it to anyone else. Later on, they won’t give me his other X-ray that was taken in March, unless he signs another form permitting that one to be released to me, too. See, the first form was for the January X-ray only and is no good for anything else.
Yes, it is stupid. I’m his wife and they have a letter on file that I have permission to get one X-ray and they won’t give me the other one without another signature. It’s stupid but that’s the law.
It may be that Obama can’t legally give permission for his mother’s records to be released. I just don’t know what the procedure is for dead people’s records.
I suppose someone could go try to get a dead relative’s medical records released to someone else and see what happens, see if they can do it. It would have to be released directly to someone else if we ever were to see Obama’s mother’s records. Who would believe anything that went through Obama’s hands first?
If Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann were married when Obama was born, he would have been listed as the father unless there was contrary proof. I have no idea who his father was but I would expect Obama Sr. to be on the BC.
maybe he has a different mother; how do we know Stanley was his birth mom?
Did you read the article?
He continued, "My belief is that there is a birth certificate, he was born here, but that there is information that for reasons known only to him he doesn't want released. If it were just the birth certificate, that would be one thing, but it's his school records, it's employment records.
But, if Davis is his real father, then that means that zero is eligible to be president. The Commie was a U.S. citizen, so, this doesn’t cut the mustard for me.
Maybe he really doesn’t know who his real father is, in which case, wouldn’t he still be a nbc?
He just needs to release the darned records. Like that’s going to happen.
You were wrong about the article. Admit it,man up, Miss Dairy, and move on.
Really? I don't see that at all.
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The hospital displayed the letter on hospital property for 6 mos. They used it for fund raising. What you’re saying is that even though they validated the letter and it’s contents—and exposed themselves to legal liability [it’s called fraud; if you say, ‘give to us; we delivered the baby Obama’ and it’s a lie, then the donors who were hoodwinked can sue. Definition of fraud (which is a crime): A false representation of a matter of fact—whether by words or by conduct, by false or misleading allegations, or by concealment of what should have been disclosed.] they never acknowledged the contents to be true.
It’s a degree of pretzel logic to which I can’t descend. But you Obama defenders keep on plucking that chicken. You’re so good at it, after all.
Agree. I do not see much resemblance between Obama and Davis. Neither with Obama Snr.
What is a fact though is that either Stanley Armour or Stanley Ann is a parent of the Alien.
The other parent is a mystery.
How did you come by the information that there is no record that Stanley Ann was admitted to the hospital? You could do everyone a big favor if you would provide the evidence of this.
That assumes that Barry, jr., knows who his father is.
Maybe the Dunhams didn't want to let Frank M Davis into the family (for which there are a number of possible reasons), so they just "assigned" him to the far away foreigner because while still a bit messy, it was much easier to deal with. Think of the internal family dynamics when Grandpa's drinking pal (which is what Dreams explicitly says he was), gets the daughter pregnant. Big family crisis. Lots of embarrassment, followed by "Hey Frank, how about you move back to Chicago?"
Pop
Sitting in his seat, a seat broad and broken
In, sprinkled with ashes,
Pop switches channels, takes another
Shot of Seagrams, neat, and asks
What to do with me, a green young man
Who fails to consider the
Flim and flam of the world, since
Things have been easy for me;
I stare hard at his face, a stare
That deflects off his brow;
I’m sure he’s unaware of his
Dark, watery eyes, that
Glance in different directions,
And his slow, unwelcome twitches,
Fail to pass.
I listen, nod,
Listen, open, till I cling to his pale,
Beige T-shirt, yelling,
Yelling in his ears, that hang
With heavy lobes, but he’s still telling
His joke, so I ask why
He’s so unhappy, to which he replies . . .
But I don’t care anymore, cause
He took too damn long, and from
Under my seat, I pull out the
Mirror I’ve been saving; I’m laughing,
Laughing loud, the blood rushing from his face
To mine, as he grows small,
A spot in my brain, something
That may be squeezed out, like a
Watermelon seed between
Two fingers.
Pop takes another shot, neat,
Points out the same amber
Stain on his shorts that I’ve got on mine and
Makes me smell his smell, coming
From me; he switches channels, recites an old poem
He wrote before his mother died,
Stands, shouts, and asks
For a hug, as I shink, my
Arms barely reaching around
His thick, oily neck, and his broad back; ‘cause
I see my face, framed within
Pop’s black-framed glasses
And know he’s laughing too.
— Barack Obama (Cashill says it’s written by and about Obama’s real father, Frank Marshall Davis)
Wow, Mark Ndesandjo (Obama) certainly does resemble his half-brother Barack. Maybe Barack doesn’t help out his half-bro George because he figures Mark has more $$$ and he should do it?
Obama isn’t the first President with paternity doubts.
Bill Clinton (William Blythe) was born only seven months after his “father” returned to the US. His “father” died a couple of months before Bill was born a full term baby with only seven months gestation.
He was never adopted although his name was changed to Clinton so his younger brother would have the same surname in school.
Who was Bills real Daddy? Was he American? Who knows?
http://blogs.findlaw.com/courtside/2010/03/ok-court-no-proof-of-marriage-no-same-sex-divorce.html
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