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Reasons why we should refrain from attacking Trump (vanity)
Vanity | 4/23/11 | radpolis

Posted on 04/23/2011 11:11:50 AM PDT by radpolis

I think it is a bad political strategy for conservatives to attack Donald Trump this early in the game. The conservative media, many conservative blogs, the liberal media and Freepers are going after Trump for his ideological inconsistencies.

The liberal media will use all its powers to destroy ANY GOP candidate for president. That is a given. They want Barack Obama re-elected, even if the entire country is collapsing around them and regardless if the GOP candidate was as spotless as Jesus Christ.

But, conservatives are going after Trump also.

This early in the game that is a bad strategy for us and here are the reasons:

Donald Trump, out of every GOP candidate out there, has the most power to do the most harm to Barack Obama and weaken him as a candidate for re-election.

Donald Trump doesn't fear the liberal media like the other candidates. He is willing to go every MSM media outlet and tell the truth about Barack Obama.

Donald Trump doesn't mince words about Obama and isn't afraid of the race card. Trump doesn't talk in weasley politico-speak like most of the others.

Donald Trump has the most power out of all the candidates to nip a Romney or Huckabee candidacy in the bud.

Donald Trump is willing to use his own money to go after Barack Obama and the liberals, saving conservatives hundreds of millions of dollars in campaign contributions and ads for media. I think we conservatives under-estimate the power of free media that we get with Donald Trump's attacks on Barack Obama and his policies.

Every time we conservatives attack Donald Trump that gives the liberal media sound bites to destroy Donald Trump and his message, which is to get Barack Obama out, and it gives ammunition for Romney and Huckabee to go after Trump in the early primaries and debates.

Donald Trump isn't beholden to any GOP establishment money or establishment players who would give us Romney, who really is no better than a McCain or Bob Dole when it comes to winning a general election.

With all that being said, conservatives have every right to criticize Donald Trump for his intellectual and ideological inconsistencies, and I would never in a million years want to censor anybody for their beliefs, but RIGHT NOW, Donald Trump just being out there with his message against Obama helps us in the long run, especially before the primaries begin.

We have almost a year until the primaries begin and having Donald Trump attacking Barack Obama day after day in the media doesn't hurt conservatives, but makes it more difficult for Obama to win.

Whatever one thinks of Trump, I think it is imperative that we have somebody on our side who is willing to take the fight to other side and fight hard and point out the weaknesses, incompetence and their destruction of the US.

I am not a Trump true believer and welcome debate on this issue and would like to hear from people about the holes in my argument and their concerns.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: 2012; donaldtrump; election2012; primaries; thedonald; trump
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To: dfwgator
a lot more people will tune in ..

I agree.

Trump has been preaching in the wilderness about China and OPEC for a year, at least. Now that he's got the MSM beating a path to his door because of the 'birther' issue he's been able to get his China/OPEC licks in to a wider audience.

I wonder if Trump will criticize Obama for his latest moves to reel in gas prices. That will tell if Trump can be really an asset to provide an agreesive counterpoint to Obama's policies.

While the MSM is clamoring to get info on the 'birther' investigation Trump can get his message out on Obama's economic incompetence in between the lines.

It'll be interesting to see if Trump comes out swinging on the gas price issue.

61 posted on 04/23/2011 12:33:54 PM PDT by longjack
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood

The GOP is really, really, really, far gone when Donald Trump is more principled than they are.

Mrs. Palin has not been a leader in the restoration of respect for our Constitution, I’m sorry.

I agree with your parenthetical statement.


62 posted on 04/23/2011 12:34:26 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (You say your'e conservative, but you support liberals. Should I believe your words or your actions?)
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To: Reagan Man

What the hell does that mean........You are supporting Cain or Johnson.


63 posted on 04/23/2011 12:34:50 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: radpolis
I think Trump's doing fine. What's the downside for him? There's no real negative publicity here.

OTOH, for him to convince me to vote for him? In a two man race with Obama, it's a no-brainer. He's got to clear whatever group of conservatives are fielded against him in the primaries, first though.

I'm all for him doing what he's doing.

Give me conservative any day, however.

64 posted on 04/23/2011 12:36:37 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’m not scared. I just support conservatives. For me conservative principles are more important than being a blow hard.


65 posted on 04/23/2011 12:39:02 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: EternalVigilance

Don’t worry, Trump will talk his way out of this one too.


66 posted on 04/23/2011 12:39:13 PM PDT by PSYCHO-FREEP (Patriotic by Proxy! (Cause I'm a nutcase and it's someone Else's' fault!....))
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To: eyedigress
>>>>>What the hell does that mean........You are supporting Cain or Johnson.

Reading comprehension is fundamental.

It means I will vote for any conservative, dummy.

67 posted on 04/23/2011 12:41:30 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: paladinan
Too many here assume he'll just beat up Obama and then go away. Why would he when he's leading all the liberal GOP primary polls? Sorry but I'm very skeptical that Trump is doing this out of the goodness of his heart and love for the country.

We all knew Obama was a disaster well before he ever got the Dem nomination or was elected. How the hell did it take Trump this long to figure it out? Especially if he's a conservative like he claims.

68 posted on 04/23/2011 12:43:05 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

I don’t think he will do it, but I’m a betting guy by nature. I will give 50 50 odds. :^)

America needs to understand basic fundamentals about a President. They will be no crying allowed when the decisions are made. Yes, we are still there.


69 posted on 04/23/2011 12:44:31 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: RC one

Based on this comment I assume then you think the ONLY person who can beat Obama is Donald Trump? That conservatism can’t beat Obama, only stick your finger to the wind populism can?


70 posted on 04/23/2011 12:44:37 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: not2worry

Donald Trump is basically another McCain except with more bravado.


72 posted on 04/23/2011 12:46:10 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I think Trump has mapped out a game plan and that is attack Obama on the “birther issue” first, get all the talking points in and then, after that appitizer is through move on to the meat and potatoes, Obama and his idiotic policies and record. The “birther issue” will establish Trump's street credit. Trump was not rolled by the lame stream the way Palin was. Palin thought that the lame stream were real journalists not shoe licks with an agenda. Trump won't be rolled, he'll fire back. Anybody that thinks this is a little media flash thing for Trump is sadly mistaken. I really don't think he would waste his time this way.
73 posted on 04/23/2011 12:46:47 PM PDT by carcraft (Pray for our Country)
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To: Reagan Man

You don’t need to get nasty with me.

We can agree to disagree.

But what is so ironic about your conservative purity is that Ronald Reagan wouldn’t have passed your own litmus test, and you call yourself Reagan Man.

Ronald Reagan was a Democrat for most of his early life, including being a Kennedy Democrat, and was head of a Hollywood union.

He didn’t come out as a conservative until the 64 election.

Maybe you should keep your hypocrisy in check before impugning anybody’s conservative credentials.


74 posted on 04/23/2011 12:46:56 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: ejdrapes
How the hell did it take Trump this long to figure it out? Especially if he's a conservative like he claims.

Someone who gets it now versus the Republicans who also claim to be conservatives and who even now take Obama's side - they never get it. That's pretty much the rest of the possible Republican presidential candidates.

75 posted on 04/23/2011 12:48:16 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: EternalVigilance
Shoot, where was he this year? Funding Rahm Emanuel to the tune of $50,000.00 for mayor of Chicago.

Ah but don't you know that's just being a good business man? At least that's what we're told here...

76 posted on 04/23/2011 12:48:28 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: radpolis
Trump:


77 posted on 04/23/2011 12:49:11 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Red Steel

Name me the possible candidates who are taking Obama’s side?


78 posted on 04/23/2011 12:51:02 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: FreeReign

Don’t forget about screwing OPEC.


79 posted on 04/23/2011 12:52:00 PM PDT by ejdrapes ("Trump is NO conservative." - Jim Robinson)
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To: ejdrapes

I could steer this to the truth but I have trees to tend to.


80 posted on 04/23/2011 12:53:10 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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