Posted on 04/16/2011 4:30:48 AM PDT by Jacquerie
No thank you.
Yes, we have been a nation of men for some time.
Ben Franklin doesn’t get enough credit as a Founder and Framer. He predicted a quick death for the Articles of Confederation and a long one for the Constitution.
Correct he was on both counts.
Militia of the State of Massachusetts put down Shays Rebellion. So what it your point, that only the states may use force?
‘IF the central government denies protection, which you hereby declare is its responsibility, of any subject State from invasion across the national border, then that State is “spiteful” and “mistaken” in defending its “views of interest?”’
I think you are referring to controlling immigration, but during this period that was completely controlled by the states.
......Laughing myself silly..........
Gawd, what a horrible vision!!!!
>Half measures to improve the Articles of Confederation would not do.
Yeah, the six whole years that the AoC were given prove that.
That statement is a terrible non-sequitur.
The loss of economic prudence was not a fault of the Constitution, but a fault of the people who mismanage our finances and have developed the anti-Constitutional programs that have put is in debt. Now you want to give the same people the authority to write a new Constitution?
s/b “put us in debt”
You’re confusing Shay’s Rebellion with the Whiskey Rebellion.
Actually you’re the one that’s fantasizing.
Like I suggested earlier, your snide well thought out response is precisely why we're in the mess we're in. If you actually followed the logic of my statement, I was suggesting that using demagogic and rhetorical devices such as Disneyland and Fantasyland to parry my suggestion of a Constitutional Convention wasn't really worth my time discussing. But, since you took it upon yourself to be the spelling police, I thought I'd return the favor.
Not that impressive.
That is incorrect. The Federal system is a divisional government in which both central and State entities are equally subordinate to the "People" and are delegated different subject material over which they govern. In short, the States build little red school houses and the Feds build aircraft carriers. The States would be subordinate to the center if building little red school houses on aircraft carriers, however.
That the supremacy clause makes the central government supreme over the States in all matters is a common misconception which should have been resolved by the Ninth and Tenth Amendments which, being amendments, trump anything preceding them anyway.
I've been discussing an Article V convention and pretty much no one supports it even though it IS a Constitutional solution. And Federalist 45 and Madison's notion of “dual sovereignty”, who needs it! And the 9th and 10th Amendment, why how dare you assert they are anything more that “truisms!”
Negative. The confusion is on your end.
Every 9th Amendment fan should read Randy Barnett’s exposition.
http://www.randybarnett.com/rightsbypeople.html
Funny, session isn’t mentioned in the Constitution because it would not have been ratified if it had been included. Secession is the final arbiter of Federal Power. Continue.
session=secession
Thank you for the link.
No, actually you are incorrect, as 200 years has shown. 9th and 10th amendments? LoL. Stop it. You’re killing me.
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