I am still digesting your other points but you are just a little premature to imply that the definition of NBC has been settled by Ankeny. First, the opinion was a dismissal on grounds other than resolution of NBC. The NBC language is mere dicta. Meaningless.
Second, even if the NBC analysis had been dispositive to the outcome of the case, it is only state court decision and has no force at the federal level, where surely any truly final adjudication must occur.
Third, the decision arguably misapplies Wong Kim Ark, and has other analytical defects, such that any federal decision, thoroughly researched and decided dispassionately, might well come out completely differently. Which is why it is an unfair disparagement of eligibility doubters to sweep them all aside as intellect-challenged pests, when in fact the issue, even to the most fair and serious-minded, is anything but settled.
As for the tape of the Kenyan grandma, I have heard it myself, and I do not remember it the way you do, at all. Maybe I’m having a senior moment, but I recall her handlers as doing all the damage control after she slipped up and identified the birthplace as Kenya. I do not know the language (Luo, is it?), but if you can direct me to an undamaged copy of the full audio, I would appreciate it. If nothing else, I would like to clear up this apparent discrepancy in my recollection.
Having said all that, please realize that I totally agree with your evaluation of Trump’s role in all this. I was one of the very first to call him a deliberate spoiler, and whether the eligible doubters are right or wrong, that is exactly how I see him using this issue, to peel off an excitable, single-issue voting block, thus disabling a GOP win in 2012.
Therefore, for all our differences in experience and perception, I must ask that we all be kind to one another and avoid, just this one time, the long-standing tradition of conservatives shooting their own. We need to resist being dazzled by Donald, and rally behind a candidate whose conservatism is genuine and time-tested, and that would certainly not be Trump.
Nobody is being dazzled by the Donald other than his courage to stand up to the hurricane coming his way. We are simply asking the same very valid questions and would like to know why they are not being answered clearly and completly.
Pray for Ameirca
“I am still digesting your other points but you are just a little premature to imply that the definition of NBC has been settled by Ankeny.”
The point is any other court, state or Federal, will rule the same way. If you dont get it, you either havent read or havent understood the courts reasoning, which is clear, simple and based on precedent. Citizen at time of birth is what ‘natural-born citizen’ means, and when you combine that with Wong Kim ark, you get a clear and simple result. “Third, the decision arguably misapplies Wong Kim Ark” - wrong, the root of the NBC argument is a disagreement WITH Wong Kim Ark’s implications. Attempts to use semantics or misreadings of other court rulings , like Happersett, will fail in front of any real judge who looks at the whole law and not just some snippets that are convenient for birthers. Arguing the point is arguing against 100+ year old precedents and IMHO is fruitless as courts will not agree.
Obama was not the first President with a foreigner for a Dad.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2703612/posts
The full audio for the interview is available via the links I shared. The transcript follows the audio.