You stated:
“Stanley Ann, or whoever was there under her name, attended class in night school in the fall quarter of 1961 and in Winter quarter of 1962; then transferred to the regular day school for Spring quarter, 1962.”
I’ve never seen that piece of information anywhere before. Can you tell me where you found it, please?
I checked the 1962 Tyee since it should be much more likely to find her in a yearbook as a regular day student vs. a night school student. There was no listing for Ann or Anna Obama nor was there a listing for Ann, Anna or Stanley Ann Dunham. She’s not in any photo with any of her friends from MIHS (like Maxine Hanson) either. I realize that she was in night school the first half of the year, but wouldn’t she likely have been in something that got photographed during the Spring quarter?
One other thing struck me about your statement. As we all know, there were all kinds of comments from her ex-classmates at Mercer in various articles published about SAD. I don’t recall any of them saying anything about actually going to school with her at UW. Since she was there the Spring quarter of ‘62 and a number of her classmates from MIHS were also there at the same time, why aren’t there any little stories about her at UW? How could they pass that up? Much was made of her “Stanley steamer” attitude toward learning and her acquisitive nature not to mention her unconventional trips to Seattle coffee houses with Chip Wall and so forth. Wouldn’t a reporter want to see what tid bits could be added to her character development from her college years?
Wouldn’t you think someone would have recalled something about her at the University as a regular day student in 1962? Also, she would have had new friends at college in addition to the friends from high school who were there, providing a whole bunch of new sources of info about her for curious reporters, wouldn’t you think?
Why didn’t anyone go digging into her experience at UW? There must have been more material there, especially since the future president was then in the picture.
I am going to respond to your #394 at this point and I am not going to quote all of the material to which I am responding. I am also going to contribute on Fractel Trader's #387 at some point today.
The direct answer to your specific question above is found on the U of W transcript. The transcript is a Day School regular University Transcript for Spring Quarter, 1962--the 10 week session beginning in March and running until finals in June. There, she is shown as a regular day school student who completed the classes with the grades set out in that quarter.
The notes on the transcript about her prior classes tell us that she attended class Fall quarter 1961 and Winter quarter 1962; the end dates for those attendances is also shown which are the final's week dates for the final exam in those classes; her grades are shown.
The classes are X classes--which denotes classes in the Extension College. The Night School is part of the Extension College.
Registration for the Night School was conducted on September 19 (actually several days during that week). Classes started the following week, the end of September, 1961.
Note also the communication from Sharon Rondeau which Fred posts at #380. I have never seen that communication before but it confirms exactly what I have been posting for the last two years.
This is to confirm that when Ms. Obama’s record was entered into the Student Data Base, an error had been made and the month was entered as August (8) and not September (9). The staff person made an honest mistake since on the original record the 9 is typed on the line which makes the 9 look like an 8. Our office investigated this, found that the class did not begin until September so corrected the on-line transcript changing the month from August to September.
Or more accurately, as I have said, the month was typed below the fold in a large transcript binder so that the number could not be clearly seen--the clerk who entered the data misread the 9 as an 8 because the type was very small and it looked on the fold as though the bottom loop in the 9 was closed to make the number an 8.
However, as I have also said, it is clear that the number is really a 9--from personal knowledge, I knew that the campus was locked down on August 19, 1961 and I knew further that X classes were registered the end of September to start for the quarter at that time.
One other narrow issue is also disposed of there. The University taught extension classes by correspondence. The typical entry for a correspondence class would have been C or CX. I know of a correspondence class taught fall quarter 1964 which was transcripted as an X class so I was suspicious about the Stanley Ann transcript on that ground. I subsequently learned that the 1964 class was registered in Night School as an X class; the student then moved to Los Angeles and took the last several sessions by correspondence and then returned to Seattle to take the final in December of 1964 and thus the transcript X entry is consistent with our view here.
Your comment about the Tyee is also something we have considered.
The Tyee for the class of 1962 would have pictures taken in the fall of 1961. It included only day school students and Stanley Ann was not a day school student in the fall of 1961--she didn't become one until Spring Quarter 1962.
The Tyee for the class of 1963 would have pictures taken in the fall of 1962 and there is no evidence anywhere that she was there in the fall quarter of 1962.
Further, the Tyee's were not complete. Lots of people were left out. The pictures were a loose operation; so was publication. I don't think you could take much from absence of the picture one way or the other, even if you thought her picture should have been there although as I see the schedule, her picture would never have been there in normal conditions anyway.
Finally, as to possible interaction with her former Mercer Island classmates at the U, I don't take much from absence of information from them either.
The Night School was not part of the regular social order at the U. Day students never saw the Night School students unless they were making a point to do so. By Spring quarter when she was in day school, the social interaction would have been established and the pattern may not have included her.
She was busy; so were the others. If she had an infant son with her in that period, she had real time consuming obligations as well as a demanding school schedule. Many of the day school students were not living on Campus; were working; and would not have had any regular intercourse with someone on Stanley Ann's schedule.