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To: little jeremiah

That’s what my mother told me...but that excuse only works up until he was a teenager, he would have known whose identification he was using when he found his birth certificate.

Up until then, I am inclined to believe they told him his mother had died in 1970, just like they told Virginia Goeldner...when the Goeldner family visited Hawaii for their anniversary in 1982.

Funny that...the Goeldners knew Stanley Ann was still alive...so the dead mother certainly wasn’t SAD!


1,422 posted on 04/26/2011 3:59:57 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Fred Nerks

These little tidbits surfacing are giving 0h0m0’s team heartburn, no doubt.

Thus the trolls and wankers.


1,435 posted on 04/26/2011 4:27:58 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Fred Nerks
“Funny that...the Goeldners knew Stanley Ann was still alive...so the dead mother certainly wasn’t SAD!”

This claim of yours is based on a hearsay story based on decades old memory. You have excluded the obvious possibility that Madelyn may have wanted to hid from relatives the fact that her daughter had a mixed-race child.

Goeldners shows up in HI for vacation from back home. Maybe Madelyn wasn't that close to Goeldner and wasn't willing, as a “typical white woman” to admit to her daughter's indiscretion, a daughter who was conveniently out the the country a lot.

You have not shared any corroborated evidence that any other person than Stanley Ann was the mother of BHO II.

This memory of Virginia Goeldner has zero evidentiary value from an investigative standpoint and would not be admissible in any court.

1,447 posted on 04/26/2011 5:26:15 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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