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To: Fred Nerks

Just noticed that “Ann’s” 1983 trip was on little Barry’s birthday. 8/4/83


1,297 posted on 04/26/2011 7:48:19 AM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson
From the 1st edition:

"Although much of this book is based upon contemporaneous journals or the oral histories of my family, the dialogue is necessarily an approximation of what was actually said or relayed to me. For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people I've known, and some events appear out of precise chronology. With the exception of my family and a handful of public figures, the names of most characters have been changed for the sake of their privacy."



A character is a fictional creation. Real people are not characters; to speak of composites in a work of non-fiction, one should properly say that some persons are composites.

Once you read this disclaimer, which I just did online in the googlebooks version, the possibility is obvious that much or most or maybe nearly all of what we have been told about Our Messiah is a fluffy lie.
1,301 posted on 04/26/2011 7:58:42 AM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Greenperson
Just noticed that “Ann’s” 1983 trip was on little Barry’s birthday. 8/4/83

That small detail ecaped me, (not that we know when his birthday really might be). It's the earlier date - I think it was in March that I find of interest, that's when zero showed up in Kenya shortly after the old man's funeral, and it looks like they took Alice Dewey with them. Kezia says 'she was like a sister to me' remember? Of course she would be nice...that has to be the trip they made to introduce themselves (insinuate themselves) into the kenyan family. But it was MARK who inherited the personal possessions of the old man. NOT ZERO. Obviously he couldn't prove who he claimed to be. Funny, that?

1,377 posted on 04/26/2011 2:23:20 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (FAIR DINKUM!)
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To: Greenperson; LucyT; melancholy
“Just noticed that “Ann’s” 1983 trip was on little Barry’s birthday. 8/4/83”

Originally Factcheck claimed Barry automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship on August 4, 1982 when he turned 21, one year before Stanley Ann's trip. Factcheck was subsequently forced to submit to the superior factchecking of Leo Donofrio showing that there was a two-year grace period, so Factcheck modified their claims to say Barry lost his Kenyan citizenship on August 4, 1984, one year _after_ Stanley Ann's trip.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama_citizenship_conspiracy_theories

“FactCheck noted that Obama had indeed been a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies (CUKC) under British law, by virtue of his descent from a Kenyan father at a time when Kenya was a British colony, and lost CUKC citizenship and became a Kenyan citizen when that country gained independence in 1963. However, Kenya's constitution prohibits dual citizenship in adulthood. Obama had therefore automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship at age 23, in 1984, by failing to formally renounce any non-Kenyan citizenship and swear an oath of allegiance to Kenya.”

How does Factcheck KNOW that Barry “automatically lost his Kenyan citizenship...by failing to formally renounce”???

Were they there in Kenya at the time? Do they have sworn statements from Kenyan authorities at the time an full access to the historic Kenyan records? Of course not! Has Barry ever been deposed under oath and declared that he did NOT renounce his US citizenship?

Alternatively, if Barry's father's marriage to Stanley Ann was bigamous, Barry would not have received UK citizenship under the 1948 BNA and thus would not have transitioned to dual UK/Kenyan citizenship in 1964 when Kenya became independent and thus would not actually have had any Kenyan citizenship to renounce.

Did Factcheck ever try to confirm whether Kenya ever considered Barry to be a Kenyan citizen and under compulsion to either affirm his Kenyan citizenship or lose it?

Factcheck should rename themselves “Factspeculation”.

It seems certain that Stanley Ann was there in time for Barry to affirm his Kenyan citizenship, if Barry was also there with her. What a perfect chance for her to share with Barry his cultural inheritance from his alleged father, which she was supposedly always keen to do while raising Barry.

1,424 posted on 04/26/2011 4:03:38 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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