Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.

Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....

[Baynative]

BTTT

[Seizethecarp]

“There is a missionary school near where the family lived. Was trying to link the missionary, Lois Anderson to SR in Kenya.”

A la “Sound of Music”: How do you solve a problem like Stanley Ann?

I have been wondering whether pregnant Stanley Ann might have been shipped off to Kenya alone to stay with the missionaries in Kenya to separate her from either of the two KGB operatives FM Davis or BHO Sr., both married to others, either of whose social situations would have been disrupted by public disclosure of the bi-racial baby and or bigamous ”marriage” to Stanley Ann!

FM Davis was associated with the same communist union activities as BHO Sr. There is an HI newspaper story highlighting BHO Sr. giving a speech at a communist front union sponsored event denouncing US policy in Vietnam closely following the Moscow party line. And Stanley Armour Dunham is a close associate of FM Davis with a huge FBI file (and a history of living close to the submarine base near Seattle and the HI navy base...great spying locations for the Soviets) making him a suspect KGB operative as well.

Stanley Ann's pregnancy could have been very complicated for them all if tied to either FM Davis or publicly to BHO Sr. as an undergrad exchange student. Stanley Ann didn't return to Hawaii until after BHO Sr. had left for Harvard...to intentionally prevent them from crossing paths in public?

And then Madelyn supposedly tells relatives that she was raising Barry after his mom died, implying the mom was not Stanley Ann? Was this just out of middleclass white shame over the bi-racial baby in the family or was it to protect the KGB cell and either FM Davis or BHO Sr.?

“Obama’s angry aunt” might then have actually gotten a letter from BHO Sr. written in Hawaii regarding the birth of Barry in Kenya with the missionaries.

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[Bikkuri]

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[LucyT]

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Thank you, Bikkuri.

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[LucyT]

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Bikkuri, you are added to the ping list.

You are living in one of my favorite places on Planet Earth.

Prayers for the dear people of Japan. My heart aches for them.

[Bikkuri]

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[hoosiermama]

Possibility that before the birth SADO didn’t know who the father of the child was.

[little jeremiah]

Have you carefully scrutinized the wrong time frame regarding Mary Toutonghi’s babysitting “Anna” Obama? It’s very important. Blows apart some mythology.

[danamco]

We have a niece whose color is white as snow with blond hair. Her mother is as white, blond hair as well, but the father is black. The same counts for her older brother came out white!

She married a black student from the former Belgium Congo and their two daughters are just slightly of black color, more light than Barry Soetoro!!

The niece with her total white complexion was admitted to Smith's College as black and became president of their student publication similar to Barry at Harvard, hmmm!!!

[danamco]

First time he violated the Logan Act?

Second time in Iraq before "S-elected"??

A felony???

[danamco]

First time he violated the Logan Act?

Second time in Iraq before "S-elected"??

A felony???

[Seizethecarp]

“Have you carefully scrutinized the wrong time frame regarding Mary Toutonghi’s babysitting “Anna” Obama? It’s very important. Blows apart some mythology.”

I am a retired CPA and Certified Fraud Examiner and I have been professionally trained to scrutinize claims regarding alleged evidence with an eye to determining whether the claims and supposed evidence actually constitute potential LEGAL evidence that can be proved up in a legal proceeding.

I try to NEVER overstate the quality of evidence while ALWAYS being open to inconsistencies and hints that a narrative of events may be false.

Corroboration is extremely important when assessing claimed evidence as is clear falsification by other evidence, if available.

I have high regard for Fred Nerks and find his photo archive to be extremely valuable, but in my opinion, numerous claims by Fred Nerks FAIL to meet my standards for evidence that can be remotely relied on to the exclusion of other evidence.

Fred Nerks repeatedly demands that FReepers embrace his claims as solid evidence (lots of all-caps “yelling”) when, IMO, his claims are merely uncorroborated speculations based on inconsistencies he has detected, often in highly unreliable newspaper articles or unreliable personal memory of single individuals.

Here are just some the currently relevant examples of “evidence” put forward by Fred Nerks (FN) which I reject:

1. Obama Sr. left Kenya shortly after completing HS. FN bases this on a statement from memory in a newspaper story decades after the fact by an official at Sr.’s HS who last saw Sr. in 1953 when Sr. was 17 years old.

2. Obama left Kenya in 1955. FN bases this claim not on a quote from Sr. “in his own words” as FN claims, but in the recounting of Sr.’s biography by a reporter in the 1962 story that Obama/Ayers appear to refer to in “Dreams”. The reporter says that Obama was last in Kenya seven years earlier. The reporter does not attribute this statement to Sr. himself. The statement is not corroborated by any other evidence and is refuted by substantial evidence that Sr. left Kenya in 1959 after fathering two children bearing his name with Kezia who were born in 1959 and 1960.

3. Per FN the Anna Obama recorded as being in Seattle from Sept. 1961 to August 1962 was NOT Stanley Ann Dunham. There is substantial corroborative evidence, IMO that it was SADO.

4. FN says that the U of WA transcript for SADO showing her there and also the transcript of the U of HI showing SADO transferring credits from WA to HI for her HI degree could have been faked. But anyone can obtain these public records for the deceased SADO and numerous folks report that they have. Similarly FN claims that the HI transcript showing SADO in Russian class in HI in Fall 1960 could have been faked, supposedly supporting FN’s claim that Sr. and SADO never met.

5. FN claims we should consider evidence that Obama was born in January 1961 instead of August. He bases this on two bits of “evidence”:

a. a US based computer database printout showing a birthdate of 8-1-61, which FN claims was actually showing a birthday of January 8, 1961. How about a data entry clerk fat-fingered a “1” instead of a “4”?

b. In a newspaper interview decades after the fact, aging Mary Toutonghi tries to recall how old her own child was at the time she babysat Barry and she guesses her child was 18 months old and says it is from memory in the newspaper story. From this guess, which results in a date of January 1961, Fred Nerks would have us believe the baby Mary was sitting for was:

i. NOT Barry, but a different mystery baby Obama, who was either the son of a different mystery Anna Obama, or...

ii. WAS Barry, but Barry was born much earlier, say in 1960 if he was several months old when this WA babysitting supposedly accrued in January 1961 when Toutonghi’s baby would have been 18 months old.

I reject all of these uncorroborated claims by Fred Nerks as failing to rise even to the level of being speculatively valid as evidence.

IMO, Fred Nerks, while providing invaluable actual photo evidence concerning all things Obama, Kenya, Ghana and Malcolm X, seems to me to be trying to fit the evidence into his favored personal theory as to who Barry's parents were rather than letting the evidence stand on its own, one corroborated fact at a time.

[Greenperson]

It is insulting for you to attack Mary Toutonghi’s memory as an “aging” one. A woman who has a child, her first, remembers nearly everything about the events of her first child’s first years of life. This woman would certainly remember whether or not she was caring for two diaper-able babies or a baby and a toddler, the toddler being her very own child. Mary Toutonghi mistakenly told the truth, unfortunately for the Obama apologists. Her second story, told only after the discrepancy was pointed out, is suspect. There’s a legal theory about the first statement being most likely to be truthful. Ask any cop what he or she thinks. Upon being questioned, Mary Toutonghi also lamely and unbelievably said that she has no photographs from that time in her life—the years during which her first child was born. Does that sound likely?

[LucyT]

Begin at # 555 and read backwards to # 529 to stay current on this thread.

Don't miss Seizethecarp's # 554.

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[Faith]

I thank you for your great service to this country.

Amen, Hallelujah!

[scott7278]

It’s not like they can’t get access to his blood...they take bags of it in case of an emergency.

[Girlene]

A woman who has a child, her first, remembers nearly everything about the events of her first child’s first years of life.

Not necessarily.

This woman would certainly remember whether or not she was caring for two diaper-able babies or a baby and a toddler, the toddler being her very own child.

When was Mary supposed to have babysat obama? If it was fall of 61, that would have put her baby at just over 2 years old, and certainly still in diapers.

[azishot]

Just WOW! Thanks, LucyT.

Bump to return to the thread later.