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To: Normandy
http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=198040

Is a discussion thread where they discuss this

Sounds like a Scam, Looks like a Scam, It's a scam! http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/14/focardi-and-rossi-reality-or-scam/

Someone has already confirmed one of the Board of Advisors doesn't exist
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The "board of advisors":

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Prof. Sergio Focardi (INFN – University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. Michael Melich (DOD – USA)
Prof. Alberto Carnera (INFM – University of Padova – Italy)
Prof. Giuseppe Levi (INFN – University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. Pierluca Rossi (University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. Luciana Malferrari (University of Bologna – Italy)
Prof. George Kelly (University of New Hampshire – USA)
Prof. Stremmenos Christos (Athen University – Greece)
There is nobody named George Kelly at UNH.

The running theory is, he created a battery that actually puts out power, just not as much and for as long as he claims. He has all the chemical components of a standard industrial battery with the twist he claims he is using heavy water.

4 posted on 04/06/2011 9:12:26 AM PDT by dila813
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To: dila813

I like the use of the term “Nuclear reaction” because it fools the layman into thinking its legit. The fact is that things happen on an atomic scale all around us every day and those natural processes are also “nuclear reactions”.


5 posted on 04/06/2011 9:18:19 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: dila813

The battery theory is one idea. Another idea is that he may have discovered a new way to create energy.

I am not advocating we should all invest in this or that we should all jump on this band wagon.

However, when you consider the possibility that this device works as he claims and what that would mean to the world, you have to look at it seriously.

From what I have read, and I am no physicist, the University has gone about this in a very deliberate way. A very scientific apporach of testing, review from within the University dept. of physics and then bringing in several noted experts as well as the press in deomnstrations that allow almost full access. The only part of the plant that is not being divulged is the reactor itself beacause of proprietary purposes. There is no battery that I know of that can sustain the output for as long as this reactor can.

If it is indeed “just” a battery, then the battery technology he has invented is miraculous in itself.

In regards to this being a financial scam I don’t really buy it.

The University made him fund all the research himself. The 1MW reactor is being built by a company with an board of directors that is independent of Rossi.

If he is indeed fooling us we will no longer call them “Ponzi” schemes. We’ll call them “Rossi” schemes. Because he sure is “fooling” a lot of people. Either that or he has done what he says he has done.

One other note:

I did try to find George Kelley and was not able to locate him. However the blog you linked seemed much more shady than the University of Blogna’s own annoucements. And the U of Blogna is one of if not the oldest institutions of learning in the world. For what it’s worth.

Please do not think I am attacking you. I would love to hear if you have any more info!


8 posted on 04/06/2011 9:32:20 AM PDT by SpringtoLiberty (Liberty is on the march!)
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To: dila813
The running theory is, he created a battery that actually puts out power, just not as much and for as long as he claims. He has all the chemical components of a standard industrial battery with the twist he claims he is using heavy water.

Last night (I apologize I don't have the link), I ran across a very long article someone had put together analyzing the E-cat from the assumption that there is a battery or other hidden power source. They went through a list of 'high-energy density' possibilities (hydrogen, Lithion-ion battery, diesel, etc.) and ruled out almost all of them. Something exotic (like burning boron or something) was the only thing that could explain the Feb. 10 test, IIRC.

I'm still seeing a lot of skepticism, but nothing robust in terms of debunking this and with no smoking guns. Most of the criticisms are circumstantial in nature (complaining about something in Rossi's past, or about some advisor, etc.) which has nothing to do with the hardware involved and the tests.

I'm not saying I'm fully convinced, but Rossi and Focardi are not engaging in a sales pitch with these things or making any obvious attempt to scam anyone of money. The work to demonstrate a 1 MW reactor in Greece will be the real test. If it proves out, I hope they are ready for the incredible tsunami of interest that results. I can't begin to enumerate the ways this would change the world, from the global collapse of utilities (why buy power off-site if you can have an E-cat in place of your furnace and water heater) to the all-too-just collapse of Middle East oil economies.

19 posted on 04/06/2011 10:21:06 AM PDT by Liberty1970 (Liberty, not License. Freedom, not Slavery.)
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