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Posted on 04/06/2011 8:48:22 AM PDT by Normandy
In a detailed report, two Swedish physicists exclude chemical reactions as the energy source in the Italian ‘energy catalyzer’. The two physicists recently supervised a new test of the device in Bologna, Italy.
(Swedish version here, Italian translation here).
“In some way a new kind of physics is taking place. It’s enigmatic, but probably no new laws of nature are involved. We believe it is possible to explain the process with known laws of nature,” said Hanno Essén, associate professor of theoretical physics and a lecturer at the Swedish Royal Institute of Technology and chairman of the Swedish Skeptics Society.
I’m not so fast to dismiss this. So far I haven’t come across anything yet that makes me think this is a scam of some kind.
Rossi’s not asking for money, and has been pretty open in allowing qualified people to test his devices.
I understand skepticism, but it’s quite interesting that one of these Swedish professors, Hanno Essen is president of the Swedish Skeptics Society and he’s not exactly calling foul yet.
He says “Everything that we’ve found so far fits together. There is nothing that seems to be strange. All people seem to be honest and competent”
Hanno's university web page lists him as "senior lecturer (associate professor)".
From the youtube, the both of them, while being very cautious, (understandable for physicists with reputations to protect) do not see this as being a fraud or a scam.
Different people, but not exactly jumping out of their seats with excitement.
Sounds pretty toned down. Not a foot stomping endorsement.
In the video, they again point out they have zero evidence provided.
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The video is from the same guys in the NyTeknik article and was made a few weeks ago — before this most recent visit when they ran the latest tests.
In this most recent article they sound fairly level-headed about the whole affair. I don’t think they are fully convinced, but they are taking the claim seriously. To me they are acting like I’d expect responsible scientists to act under the circumstances.
The paper Rossi and Focardi wrote about their reactor has been rejected by multiple peer-reviewed journals (and when it was finally published it was published in a journal they made).
(It probably doesn’t help that Rossi has been accused of a few crimes, including tax fraud and illegally importing gold.)
http://www.motherboard.tv/2011/1/25/is-cold-fusion-real-not-yet
Rossi Discovery – What to Say?
http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/01/15/rossi-discovery-what-to-say/
“Pay close attention to Andrea Rossi; he has a dirty past. Twenty years ago he was arrested for illegal importing of gold from the Swiss.
“Not only that, but in the 1980s he was involved in a scam with industrial waste. It is a complex thing to explain, but the scam cost the Lombardy region € 25 million. He honestly does not convince me as a person, and I am not convinced about the test done at Bologna today.
“Check this link: http://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petroldragon
“In friendship, I suggest you be careful, I smell something burning.”
According to the link, in 1995, Rossi was jailed for conspiracy to engage in tax fraud for his involvement in a business that was trading precious materials between Switzerland and Italy.
Typical Europeans, They aren’t like us Americans, we just would shout fraud.
They are too polite, almost like the Chinese and Japanese. They just say yes and hold their hand to their mouth and laugh.
Look at their faces. It isn’t excited, it is clinical.
The facility index didn’t say so.
If he was a professor it would have said so, Senior Lecturers are normally people seeking a PH.D. and have a Masters Degree. although they could be a Professor, it would have stated it in the Facility List.
Could be he just recently achieved this honorary.
Something like the difficulty that scientists had in getting papers published which challenged the Global Warming orthodoxy.
I'm not saying that Rossi is right, nor that he's a fraud. The situation is interesting enough that I'm going to wait for the one megawatt pilot plant to crank up in October.
Lets see if Rossi makes another trip to Prison.
” If it proves out, I hope they are ready for the incredible tsunami of interest that results.”
Well, the Chinese will just license and steal it.
Did you bother to LOOK at the university web page I supplied you with? Please do so. Curriculum vitae for Hanno Essén. He got his PhD in theoretical physics back in 1979. He's published multiple papers in the European Journal of Physics
It’s interesting to read of the analysis done of the used nickel powder:
“Ny Teknik: What analyses have you done on the powders?
Kullander: Element analysis and isotopic analysis. At the Ångström Laboratory in Uppsala, Sweden, element analysis has been made using X-ray Fluorescence (XRFS). Dr. Erik Lindahl undertook the investigation. At the Biomedical Center in Uppsala, both element analysis and isotope analysis has been done through Inductively Coupled Plasma Mass Spectrometry (ICP-MS). Associate Professor Jean Pettersson has made the measurement.
Ny Teknik: What results have you obtained from the analyses?
Kullander: Both measurements show that the pure nickel powder contains mainly nickel, and the used powder is different in that several elements are present, mainly 10 percent copper and 11 percent iron. The isotopic analysis through ICP-MS doesn’t show any deviation from the natural isotopic composition of nickel and copper.
Say what you want, these two are respected Swedish theoretical physicists.Awards: Björkens prize for year 2000 Membership in Societies and Academies Swedish Physical SocietyEuropean Physical Society Finnish Society of Sciences and Letters Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences Royal Academy of Arts and Sciences in Uppsala Royal Society of Sciences Committee Memberships Nuclear Physics Research Committee, CERN, 1968 - 1969 Swiss Institute for Nuclear Research, 1968 - 1970 Swedish Atomic Research Council, 1975 - 1977 Committee for Physics Experiments at the CERN Proton Synchrotron, 1977 - 1979 Swedish Natural Science Research Council, 1977 - 1983 CERN Council, 1980 - 1983 CERN Research Board, 1982 - 1984 Board of the Faculty of Mathematics and Natural Sciences, Uppsala, 1984 - 1993 Scientific Council of the Cooler Ring COSY project, Jülich, Germany, 1989 - 1992 Programme Advisory Committee, COSY, Jülich, 1994 - Scientific Policy Committee, Max Planck Institute for Nuclear Physics, Heidelberg, 1991- Swedish CERN Committee, 1977 - 1995 Asea Brown Boveri Energy Prize Award committee, 1990 - 1997 Board of the Royal Swedish Academy of Sciences, 1998 -
I have to go off what the university says, sorry.
If he and another like him declared this legit, then I would be interested.
He didn’t.
I could say someone looked at my invention but that is far from an endorsement.
Do you have any idea how easy it is to defraud when I only supply test results using my own instruments? It is meaningless.
I could produce a video showing a new AAA battery that generates 25 GW, as long as the instruments are mine, they are easy to tamper with.
Here's the faculty index. He's right there, "Essén, Hanno" in the "Senior Lecturer" section, 4th name down.
In your google searches, did you look for Hanno Essén or Hanno Essen? The letter "é"(note the little mark above the e) in the Swedish alphabet is a different character from the english "e", which is probably why his name didn't turn up in your searches, since you would have been spelling it wrong.
I was already aware of everything in your post, as one may infer from my comments about circumstantial criticisms that do not involve the E-cat itself. Please be careful not to fall into close-mindedness. That is not skepticism.
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