Posted on 04/04/2011 6:41:31 AM PDT by Rational Thought
MSNBCs Lawrence ODonnell doesnt think much of what Donald Trump is doing with all this birther stuff and his fake run for the 2012 Republican nomination for president. And neither do I. We said as much on ODonnells show The Last Word on Friday night. In fact, I went a step further and did something Id done once before when talking about the persistent and long-debunked conspiracy theory that President Obama is not a U.S. citizen: I showed his birth certificate on live television.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
I can't answer that, but I do know you must be a citizen to be a Rep. or a Sen.
You are welcome. I just searched on “witch doctor” and posted the silliest one I could find. I try to repay all the laughs I get from others, but I’ll NEVER catch up.
Excellent. Let’s somehow get these two docs on tv to counteract these idiots. Thanks for posting them side by side.
Jonathan Capehart, who is openly gay
Jonathan Capehart’s Mother Chastises Dylan Ratigan: You “Pissed Me Off,” My Son Is Not A “Clown”
Wash Post’s Jonathan Capehart Smears Sarah Palin for ‘Anti-Semitic Phrase’
In the video, the former Alaska governor rejected this as a “blood libel.” Capehart smeared, “...That phrasing, that phrase is incredibly anti-Semitic. And no one is calling Sarah Palin an anti-Semite but for her to use that language a lot of people think she has dug a deep hole even deeper.”
However, the National Review’s Jim Geraghty pointed to an October 30, 2008 Ann Coulter column: Capehart’s Washington Post colleague Eugene Robinson complained about “...The blood libel against black men concerning the defilement of the flower of Caucasian womanhood.” Was Mr. Robinson using anti-Semitic language? Should he have been “more careful,” as Capehart instructed Palin to be?
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“We’re talking about the extreme portions of the tea party movement and they’re overwhelmingly white. Those are the folks that are saying I want my country back,” Washington Post columnist Jonathan Capehart said on today’s “Morning Joe”. “And it does have that tinge of I want my country back from them.” The word racism was never mentioned, but check out the video below the fold. The implication was clear.
No word yet on whether Capehart and every other media personality to parrot this line of attack also think racism animates Howard Dean, Hillary Clinton, Chuck Schumer, James Carville, Paul Begala, Nation editor in chief Katrina vanden Heuvel, and libtalker Thom Hartmann. All have used the phrase “take our country back” or some form of it in electoral rallying cries
As an amateur genealogist, I have spent hours, even days, viewing newspaper archives. I will tell you that the possibility of someone replacing a microfilm with another doctored microfilm would be relatively simple.
I cant speak for the National archives but in the libraries and genealogy societies where Ive visited, researchers are allowed to remove the microfilm box from the storage drawer, run it through the viewing machine themselves and place it on a table where it is later returned to its original location by staff members.
A sneak could easily remove the microfilm, hide it in their pocket, replace a fake reel in the box, and come back the next day with an altered microfilm.
The actual microfilm that has Obamas announcement and also the previous and following reels, should be magnified and examined. There should be similar wear and tear on all three microfilms and the scratch marks on the Obama microfilm should be actual scratches and not copied images of scratches. If I were lawyer attempting to prove if the announcements are valid I might consider getting a court order to confiscate the reels. There may be no evidence of tampering but then again
Gee, maybe Ive been watching too much CSI. :-)
NO VISIBLE raised seal
certificate number is wrong place on document for someone born prior to 2007(date on back of fake colb)
parents state/country of birthplace omitted
politically correct race: African (Hahahahahaha)
We were wondering if Micki Booth could get a certification of live birth to show us the difference. I am glad she did.
But now this brings up another issue. She received a certificate of live birth not a certification of. So the question is, in addition to the name change from certification to certificate to confuse the issue even more (they will do anything to make this as difficult as possible to follow), were there any other changes to the document like the ones pointed out here? the addition of parents place of birth, wrong position of DOH etc...
Does anyone know when Micki Booth received these new certificates of live birth?
Also if anyone has a way of getting in touch with Micki Booth, Obama’s Garden http://obamasgarden.wordpress.com/2011/03/ would like to compare the two seals. And the date accepted/date filed with the registrar issue.
It is extremely unfortunate that the investigator failed to get a photo of the birth index missing Obama’s name. I understand the person had trouble with the camera but they could have called someone to get instruction on how to snap a pic. That opportunity is lost forever.
I guess they didn’t allow photo copies of the birth index?
You are referring to the first “investigator” TsunamiGeno. Yes, he had a pin video recorder, and I had warned him to practice with it a bunch before going to the DOH. He didn’t and so he didn’t realize he didn’t actually have it running until he left the DOH and checked it on his laptop. I swear I felt like crying.
Ironically, that is the same camera that was used to get “The Lady in Brown” ordering her long form BC on the next trip.
So, yes, user error. I couldn’t afford to invest in a really good pin camera before the first trip because I paid for the entire trip.
Both researchers asked for a copy, both were flatly refused. Neither were advised that they could write in and request one for example. I had expected that after what happened on the first trip, which is why I provided a different device to image the index book with for the second trip.
I dont wish to dispute your post, only to shed some additional light. The most important difference when comparing the two documents you displayed is the “Rev. date” at the bottom left hand corner. Keep in mind that Obama supposedly acquired his COLB in June 2007.
Obamas COLB shows OHSM 1.1 (Rev 11/01) LASER
Alan Booths COLB shows OHSM 1.1 (Rev 10/08) LASER
Booth obviously acquired his COLB after October 2008. I acquired family Hawaii COLBs in November 2008 and they all have the 10/08 Rev. date. They have the same format as Booths and say CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. Why the HDOH decided to change the format on their COLB one month prior to the 2008 election is anybodys guess.
The seal on the Booth documents is identical to the seal on my documents. Im not very concerned that Obamas first COLB doesnt show the HDOH imprinted seal because I emailed a photo of mine to a printing expert for his observations and the image of the imprint was not detectable in the photo. I had to snail mail the actual document to him in order for him to see and feel the raised seal. I guess a better camera might have shown the seal.
There are many who have provided proof that the Obama COLB is a fake. To me, the most obvious problem with the document is that the Obama fightthesmears COLB has no folds but then they mysteriously appear in the factcheck COLB, along with the HDOH imprinted seal. Thats a sure indication that there is some chicanery going on.
Taking a photo of a document with a camera is NOT the same as a scanned image and that is the entire point here. Booth's is a scanned image. Cameras will distort & blur edges of things, scanners do not. Scanners enhance those distortions. Nearly every household today & certainly every office, like the one Obama’s was supposedly taken from, has a scanner at an arms length away for use. Therefore, the flat image that is posted is NOT the same thing as the hand held photos that would have offered better varification has they just simply scanned them on the machine they were standing next to.
And as far as the seal goes. The one in the camera images is not legible and it is also not distorted from the fold. It is a perfect circle when it should be an out of shape oval with an obvious to the eye fold through it.
But the kicker is the politically correct "African" race of the father. There was no such thing as political correctness in 1961, even in HI. If African is a race, does that mean I was born a North American Minnesotan? A continent is not a race. There were plenty of white Africans in 1961 also.
You are quite correct about the use of “African” as fathers race. I spent many hours looking into that and never found that it was an allowed code - not then and not now - here are some of the things I found:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/hawaiis-fathers-race-codes
So if the information on it hasn’t changed, then obama’s colb is missing the origin of parents block?
I realize micki put out the long form. I was commenting I was glad she put out the short form too, so we have something to compare obama’s with.
I do not believe the question of date filed v date ACCEPTED has been answered for some investigators.
Does anyone have the link where micki’s short forms were originally posted? Sorry to be short, using my phone.
According to the previous posts, micki’s short forms were obtained in 2008.
There are COLBs on the internet issued prior to 1990 that have the birth location of the parents listed on them. It’s been covered here somewhere in the “naturalborncitizen” or “certifigate” threads.
As far as the long forms Mikki originally posted. You’ll have to search for them. I didn’t keep links to them but probably the easiest place to find them would be through a site search at the birther report dot com.
Mikki getting the forms in 2008..could be I read wrong. When they were attained hasn’t been high on my list. What is contained in them is.
OH! Are you the one I got those from? Hard to remember since so much has happened in the past year. I started to look into it more maybe a couple of months ago and found this that and the other, but nothing that allows for the parent to use African. I even found a good “worksheet” that shows a very good example of the forms that a parent must provide info for. No African.
I can’t explain the Rev date anomaly.
The date anomaly is due to the fact that HDOH revised the COLB format in October 2008 as noted in the bottom left hand corner of the Booth COLB. This explains why the Obama document shows CERTIFICATION OF LIVE BIRTH and the Booth document and MY documents show CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH. This also explains why the CERTIFICATE NUMBER , etc are in different locations on the two documents. The COLB format was revised by HDOH in October 2008.
Obamas COLB was supposedly acquired in June 2007, hence the document revision date is OHSM 1.1 (Rev 11/01) LASER.
The Booth COLB was obviously acquired after October 2008 because the document Rev date is OHSM 1.1 (Rev 10/08) LASER. Same revision date as my documents I acquired in November 2008.
Why the HDOH decided to change the format on their COLB one month prior to the 2008 election is anybodys guess.
Youre not implying that the Booth COLB is a fake, are you?
If youre saying the Obama COLB is a fake, you got no argument with me on that one.
BTW I made no mention of the filed/registered date.
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