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To: Spaulding
“I don't disagree with you seizethecarp (great name), and find the queries about Obama/Soetoro/Dunham’s past intriguing too. But the chances that any of these stories is verifiable are extremely small.”

The chance that evidence would be found to prove Clinton's Lewinski BJs was extremely small until the blue dress was forensically examined.

Obama is telling us every day, as is Abercrombie, that he is scared to death of what is in the HI vital records. Logic points to fear that ineligibility will be discovered and that can only mean a non-HI, non-US birth.

The entire congress, courts, US legal academic elite knew Obama had a UK subject father and chose to ignore that in an act of collective constitutional “jury nullification”. That jury nullification explicitly did not extend to ignoring a non-HI birth for Obama. That is what Obama fears.

74 posted on 02/27/2011 9:04:59 AM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
Obama is telling us every day, as is Abercrombie, that he is scared to death of what is in the HI vital records. Logic points to fear that ineligibility will be discovered and that can only mean a non-HI, non-US birth.

Obama and his handlers are very shrewd propagandists. If Obama's comrades tell us, by their behavior, that something is important, it would be wise to look elsewhere. Chester Arthur used the same ploy, always in possession of his birth documents from Vermont, Arthur let, and possibly planted, misinformation about his mother, about his mother's age, about his whereabouts, and never answered questions.

Arthur had a friend or operative in the publishing business, Hinman, described by contemporary Obama supporters as a Democrat, but in fact a Republican, like Chester, write a conspiracy book claiming Arther was born in Canada. Arthur, already notorious for his involvement with the New York Port Authority and fraud, never addressed the charges. They served the purpose of diverting attention from his minister father's British citizenship. Arthur had his personal papers burned just before he died. Leo Donofrio and his sister are writing a book about Arthurs’s scam - the first president not a natural born citizen, or not a citizen at the time of the adoption.

We know about Obama’s father. We can guess forever about his birthplace. Some very powerful people are keeping that secret - probably forever. Because of the trillions of dollars involved, because of the deaths already occurring, either because of direct action by Susan Rice, Mitchell, Hillary Brennan, Obama’s Arabist counterintelligence adviser, who almost became Director of National Intelligence, and whose minion was killed after cleaning out Obama’s passport folder in State Dept Archives, no one dares talk. It seems likely that very few actually know the truth, since Obama is largely a fictional character - books written by others, no photos or trace at Columbia, and never seen by anyone in his poly sci graduating class, no writing as “Editor” of the Harvard Law Review. His history is largely made up. He is a “made man,” and carefully made at that.

Obama Jr was born a British subject, by the 1948 British Nationality Act. While less interesting, that is a fact. “But if...” discussions are pointless, and those pointers may have been provided by political operatives.

If your car is running roughly, and you have been told your compression is low, and there is blow-by from the manifold, but a mechanic tells you he's heard that a faulty air conditioner can cause roughness, would you pay him to replace the air conditioner? Looking at what else might be wrong, while in possession of the certainty that Barry is ineligible, using any of his own descriptions, dual citizenship is not sole allegiance, a natural born Subject of the crown is not a natural born Citizen. He told us he was not natural born, and is spending trillons of dollars which will cost our children their freedom and productivity, and we look for other reasons which might also make him ineligible?

Every Senator attested, in Pat Leahy’s Senate Res 511, April 2008, to the understanding that a natural born Citizen is born of citizen parents. There is no doubt. (The local trolls will claim "but they were talking about McCain." The provision does not change with the candidate.) We know compression is low, but replacing the engine is expensive, so we keep looking for other problems. The only reason for continuing to look is to avoid fixing the real problem, and anyone looking for other defects is, for whatever reason, deflecting attention from the crack in the engine block, and obstructing the necessary repair.

77 posted on 02/27/2011 11:10:56 AM PST by Spaulding
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