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There are as I understand it other states now crafting eligibility statutes for the 2012 elections. It would be really ironic if Arizona in the end had the last laugh if Obama loses reelection because he did not want to show his long form birth certificate and that caused millions of voters not trust him anymore.
1 posted on 01/24/2011 10:10:07 AM PST by SGW
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OK, that’s it - I’m calling him Barry from now on - that’s it, just Barry - no last name because it’s unverified.


2 posted on 01/24/2011 10:15:20 AM PST by libertarian27 (Ingsoc: Department of Life, Department of Liberty, Department of Happiness)
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But but shouldn’t there still be an original birth certificate with the name Barack Obama on it?


4 posted on 01/24/2011 10:18:32 AM PST by MulberryDraw (Turn off the EPA, FCC, Federal Dept. of Education, ...)
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I honestly don’t think it will matter. Not changing his name legally was just an oversite. Plus McCain will say he’s the legal president. And Rush, Hannity and O’Rielly will say it’s not a big deal.


5 posted on 01/24/2011 10:19:11 AM PST by Terry Mross (I voted for McCain and WASTED my vote.)
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ping


6 posted on 01/24/2011 10:19:25 AM PST by unkus
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So an initiative for the RNC would be to lobby other states for a similar law. With the Republican supermajority in Texas, that could be the next state to pass such a statute.

Perry would no doubt sign something that would improve his chances.

7 posted on 01/24/2011 10:24:33 AM PST by Regulator (Watch Out! Americans are on the March! America Forever, Mexico Never!)
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I thought Texas was one of the others, but do not quote me on that. All states should have that law!


9 posted on 01/24/2011 10:26:36 AM PST by blondee123
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Ping..................

Arizona will decide whether Obama gets reelected or not

Go Arizona, GOOOOOOOOOO!

0b0z0's crushed ego will be the end of him! Of Course, the communists' talking points will be :

Yeah, of course, the bigots in AZ are made at His Heinous for suing AZ on behalf of the poooooooooor immigrants! Remember, he feels their pain because he’s one of them! LOL!

The point is, would he show AZ his stealth BC? Could UberCommie find/forge it in time?

Interesting to see the avalanche of red states following suit!

12 posted on 01/24/2011 10:30:41 AM PST by melancholy (Papa Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist)
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The only way his name could be Barry Soetoro is if he was adopted by his mother’s second husband.

There would also be a notation on the long form BC that would simply say “amended”.


13 posted on 01/24/2011 10:31:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously..... You won't live through it anyway.)
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They had their chance in 2008, but because of their stupid election law allowed the candidates to “self-attest”. That’s right, sign a document and send it in stating that they were indeed constitutionally eligible for the office without verification from any state authority.


14 posted on 01/24/2011 10:31:45 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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Bills in 4 States Require Birth Certificates For 2012 Election

 

 

Republican legislatures in four states — Texas, Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona — have or plan to introduce bills that would require all candidates for president or vice president of the United States to show his or her birth certificate to be on the state ballot.

http://fellowshipofminds.wordpress.com/2010/11/21/bills-in-4-states-require-birth-certificates-for-2012-election/


17 posted on 01/24/2011 10:33:38 AM PST by blondee123
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18 posted on 01/24/2011 10:34:35 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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There are as I understand it other states now crafting eligibility statutes for the 2012 elections.


I suspect most states already have in place statutes/laws/codes outlining elgibility which requires a certification of elgibility of the candidate. What they apparently don’t have is a requirement for proof of that elgibility..

Here is what a couple of states already have on the books:

Texas: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/EL/htm/EL.192.htm

SUBCHAPTER B. PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES

Sec. 192.031. PARTY CANDIDATE’S ENTITLEMENT TO PLACE ON BALLOT. (a) A political party is entitled to have the names of its nominees for president and vice-president of the United States placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if:

(1) the nominees possess the qualifications for those offices prescribed by federal law;

(2) the party’s state chair signs a written certification of:

(A) the names of the party’s nominees for president and vice-president; and

(B) the names and residence addresses of presidential elector candidates nominated by the party, in a number equal to the number of presidential electors that federal law allocates to this state;

(3) the party’s state chair delivers the written certification to the secretary of state before the later of:

(A) 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential election day; or

(B) 5 p.m. of the first business day after the date of final adjournment of the party’s national presidential nominating convention; and

(4) the party is:

(A) required or authorized by Subchapter A of Chapter 172 to make its nominations by primary election; or

(B) entitled to have the names of its nominees placed on the general election ballot under Chapter 181.

(b) If the state chair’s certification of the party’s nominees is delivered by mail, it is considered to be delivered at the time of its receipt by the secretary of state.

Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 211, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1986. Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 864, Sec. 203, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.

Amended by:

Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 1109, Sec. 21, eff. September 1, 2005.

Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 355, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2009.

Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1235, Sec. 17, eff. September 1, 2009.

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New Hampshire:
http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa655.htm

655:17-b Declaration of Intent; Presidential Candidates Who File Nomination Papers.

I. Declarations of intent for each candidate for president who seeks nomination by nomination papers shall be in the form provided in paragraph II. Declarations of intent required by this section shall be filed with the secretary of state, signed by the candidate, and notarized by a notary public.

II. I, _________, swear under penalties of perjury that I am qualified to be a candidate for president of the United States pursuant to article II, section 1, clause 4 of the United States Constitution, which states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” I further declare that I am domiciled in the city (or town or unincorporated place) of _____, county of ____, state of ____, and am a qualified voter therein; that I intend to be a candidate for the office of president to be chosen at the general election to be held on the ____ day of ____; and I intend to file nomination papers by the deadline established under RSA 655:43. I further declare that, if qualified as a candidate for said office, I shall not withdraw; and that, if elected, I shall be qualified for and shall assume the duties of said office.


22 posted on 01/24/2011 10:39:34 AM PST by deport
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I don’t qute get this. It wasn’t an issue for Gary Hartpence or William Jefferson Blythe.


25 posted on 01/24/2011 10:42:12 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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It also has to do with the idea that all kinds of white lies

This is a story about potential fraud on a grand scale

White lie and "fraud on a grand scale" don't seem to be related to me.

26 posted on 01/24/2011 10:42:17 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberlism - the surety of knowing that which cannot be proven by fact.)
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Bump

Good summary of issues

36 posted on 01/24/2011 10:55:22 AM PST by opentalk
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The controversy has to do with the idea that the President’s legal name on his birth certificate is Barry Soetoro not Barrack Obama.

That's impossible!!! If the short form isn't fraudulent, then his long form MUST have his name listed as Barrack Hussein Obama.

48 posted on 01/24/2011 11:17:15 AM PST by Fredgoblu
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Barack Obama should give Barry Soetoro a full pardon, and then announce that he is dropping the name Barack Obama.


51 posted on 01/24/2011 11:41:09 AM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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More propaganda to mislead the sheep to think about other reasons then his NBC issue.


54 posted on 01/24/2011 11:56:22 AM PST by stockpirate (Hey congress, it's our government and our money, DO NOT RAISE THE DEBT LIMIT!)
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The argument was that the Congress simply did not do its job in vetting President Obama and the Arizona legislature would make sure this would never happen again.

No, it was the state legislatures that dropped the ball. They have always had the constitutional power to prevent foreigners from becoming receiving their electoral votes.

60 posted on 01/24/2011 12:54:58 PM PST by Paleo Conservative
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Nice try. He won’t show his COLB because it will leave a trail which shows he was not born in the United States.


65 posted on 01/24/2011 2:54:11 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama . fascist info..http://wwvw.americanthinker.com2009/05/brack_obama_the _quintessentia_1.html)
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