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What the Media Won't Tell You About Jared Loughner,
Vatic ^ | 1-16-2011 | True Ott, PhD

Posted on 01/20/2011 11:52:21 AM PST by Whenifhow

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To: SonOfDarkSkies

If you can’t handle reality, stay on the controlled news threads.


41 posted on 01/20/2011 2:21:13 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: dead

>> “Good thing they were able to read Judge Roll’s mind when he decided to attend this thing at the last minute.” <<

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An invitation that he will never get the opportunity to regret accepting. There was no need to read any minds, any more than you need to read your car’s mind to drive it to the store.


42 posted on 01/20/2011 2:24:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Churchillspirit

>> Only thing missing in this scenario is a “Jack Ruby” to silence the perp. <<

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How do you know that?

Do you know who silenced Vince Foster, or Ron Brown?
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43 posted on 01/20/2011 2:27:44 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Churchillspirit

The “perp” has likely already been dealt with.
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44 posted on 01/20/2011 2:29:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: firebrand

>> “All of this hinges on whether there is indeed no basis for a federal crime unless the judge was on official business.” <<

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Did a lack of ‘basis’ stop congress from shoving Obamacare down our throats?


45 posted on 01/20/2011 2:33:45 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

I think you are attempting an insult, but your logic is a wee bit fuzzy.


46 posted on 01/20/2011 2:37:41 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: gardencatz

For this one, I think you’ll need some of the huge ingots I sometimes see on the highways on flatbed tractor-trailers coming from Alcoa Tennessee.


47 posted on 01/20/2011 2:38:48 PM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Whenifhow

Of course! Why didn’t I think of this? It’s soooo obvious. /sarc


48 posted on 01/20/2011 2:42:59 PM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: editor-surveyor

Are you suggesting that Loughner has been killed???


49 posted on 01/20/2011 2:45:08 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

No insult. Just some people aren’t well equipped to handle the way this kind of ‘business’ is done, and tend to head into denial rather than look at the extreme uglies.


50 posted on 01/20/2011 2:49:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: Churchillspirit

No, loughner didn’t know what the judge had ruled.

There was someone there to make sure everything went ‘right’ and that someone is likely already neutralized.


51 posted on 01/20/2011 2:51:34 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: editor-surveyor

If you say so...


52 posted on 01/20/2011 2:54:55 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: editor-surveyor
Actually, I suspected from the very beginning that there was more to this matter than simply another schizoid gone wild.

The seemingly pre-planned reaction of local lefties was certainly curious but not entirely out of character for the kind of narcissistic cult Obama has fashioned out of the Radical Left. However, when James Fuller unraveled for all the world to see, it became apparent that this event might be objective-driven and not just a random assassination.

53 posted on 01/20/2011 3:09:09 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Please check out who GWB's granny ran with until 8 months before his mother was born. (Hint she loves abrotion and disliked the conservative wing of the "R" Party)
54 posted on 01/20/2011 4:12:51 PM PST by investigateworld (Buy Ammo!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

I could be wrong, but I do not see J. Eric Fuller as a trusted part of anyone’s operations. He definitely would not be the back-up assassin. That person would be as cool and emotionless as a block of ice.


55 posted on 01/20/2011 4:14:07 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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To: sportutegrl
"Didn’t Judge Roll just walk over to the Congresswoman? Who knew in advance that he would be there?"

I read someplace, Judge Roll was called on Friday night and was informed that Rep Giffords was to be at the Safeway. He went to Mass at a church near to the store because he wanted to speak with her.

The article in question was about whether Judge Roll was there on official business or not. It appeared that he was.

It would be helpful if there was a video of Judge Roll speaking with any of Rep Giffords' assistants.

56 posted on 01/20/2011 4:43:15 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: editor-surveyor
I agree about Fuller.

There are of course a variety of ways in which guys like Fuller and Loughner might be manipulated from a distance. Guys like this might be whipped into a frenzy, directed, and triggered just to create chaos or diversion.

I hope more of this matter comes to light but I doubt it will.

57 posted on 01/20/2011 4:51:59 PM PST by SonOfDarkSkies (Obama and the Radical Left: 'People of the Lie')
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To: sportutegrl
Found the article:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/joshgerstein/0111/Judges_final_actions_key_to_federal_charge_for_his_murder.html

58 posted on 01/20/2011 5:22:19 PM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Whenifhow
I'm not sanguine about some of the presuppositions haphazardly attached to this particular notion of a conspiracy in the assassination of Judge Roll and attempted assassination of Rep. Giffords. However, the satanic death cult among the drug cartels is well known. In fact, you don't have to dig too deeply into the Mexican ethos to find the fatalistic thread, and yes, it goes back to the Toltecs and past into the mists of time, as they say.

And there are some bizarre material facts in this case that warrant closer examination.

Judge Roll was on the scene on official business, not just hearsay, as some insist, but intentionally, in the performance of his duties. The attempted assassination of Giffords alone was a federal crime. One could speculate the Judge was meeting with the Representative in fear for his life. It does not take much imagination to believe this, as anyone who takes the time to examine the Civil War in Mexico can tell you. And his trip to Mass beforehand may have been precautionary, on his part, and his choice of venues, "a public place," also precautionary, although that certainly did him little good, if true.

All that and more is speculation. What is not speculation is the fact that the shooter had managed to purchase a Glock 9mm. The background check almost certainly would have required a sign-off from the Sheriff, as concealed carry permits do in most states.

With this guy's background, and the Sheriff spouting off, pointing fingers and playing the media, my first reaction was diversion from his own malfeasance.

Perhaps someone could clear up the tangle of both federal and Arizona law in this regard for us.

As to the further "satanic" connection with the Air Force (and NASA, also, for that matter) there are some well-written (some say ridiculous) well-researched threads on the place satanic cults played in the founding of JPL and in the Air Force.

However, I don't say I believe such things, only that I will allow for the possible the existence of an official dark side, though I don't buy some of the theories attaching some well-known people or whole organizations to such practices, many of which could be planted intentionally as diversions and to ruin the credibility of amateur investigators.

Or, as my grandpappy used to say, "better not think about that stuff too much, son. It'll make you sick."

59 posted on 01/20/2011 6:28:22 PM PST by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: editor-surveyor

I meant that what I said hinged on whether it was true. If there was another basis for the shooter having committed a federal crime, then what I wrote was not applicable.


60 posted on 01/20/2011 6:54:36 PM PST by firebrand
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