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What the Media Won't Tell You About Jared Loughner,
Vatic ^ | 1-16-2011 | True Ott, PhD

Posted on 01/20/2011 11:52:21 AM PST by Whenifhow

Federal Judge John McCarthy Roll was the Chief Judge for the United States District Court for the District of Arizona who on Friday, January 7, 2011 issued a “preliminary ruling”in a case titled “United States of America v. $333,520.00 in United States Currency et al” [Case Number: 4:2010cv00703 Filed: November 30, 2010] that would basically disallow the movement of hundreds of millions of dollars of confiscated drug profits directly being placed into private bank accounts tied to mafia kingpins.

The following day, Saturday, January 8, 2011, Judge Roll was shot and killed by an individual the media would have you believe is a lone, anti-Semitic, right-wing fanatic who listens to too much alternative radio broadcasts!! The case being ruled on by Judge Roll, is all about bulk cash smuggling into or out of the United States by Mexican drug lords and who exactly has the final right of possession of the funds.

It appears that the Obama administration claimed the right to seize large amounts of cash and assets under authority of Presidential Executive Orders, instead of using existing laws. The Obama administration used as support for their claim before Judge Roll the seizing of all American citizens’ gold, in 1933, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt’s signing of Executive Order 6102, which was ruled at the time to be constitutional. The question that needs to be thoroughly investigated is, why is Obama’s Justice Department, and A.G. Eric Holder getting mixed up in all of this, and why do they care what happens to Mexican drug cartel funds??

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TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: giffords; ilinicide; jamesfuller; jaredloughner; judgeroll; tucson
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To: Judith Anne

Here’s another link in the chain:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2660503/posts


21 posted on 01/20/2011 12:17:54 PM PST by bkepley
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To: Whenifhow

OH Fertheluvva... you gotta be kidding me.

~~Really?~~


22 posted on 01/20/2011 12:21:36 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: bkepley

LOL. My god... it’s all starting to fit together now. :-)

Yeesh. Sometimes there’s nothing left to do but point and laugh.


23 posted on 01/20/2011 12:23:34 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: Whenifhow
why is Obama’s Justice Department, and A.G. Eric Holder getting mixed up in all of this, and why do they care what happens to Mexican drug cartel funds??

It was suggested a week or two ago that Obama is interested in establishing more legal precedent for appropriating private funds, in order to facilitate the taking of personal retirement accounts.

24 posted on 01/20/2011 12:26:05 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Judith Anne
My experiences are very limited in certain areas, but anytime I was associated with an event which made the newspapers (particularly the front page -above or below the fold) the information presented to the public was incorrect or severely skewed. Many time it was grossly incorrect and did no represent reality as I knew it.
25 posted on 01/20/2011 12:27:31 PM PST by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: Whenifhow

Only thing missing in this scenario is a “Jack Ruby” to silence the perp.


26 posted on 01/20/2011 12:29:37 PM PST by Churchillspirit (9/11/01...NEVER FORGET.)
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To: Whenifhow
SmileyCentral.com
27 posted on 01/20/2011 12:29:48 PM PST by verity
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To: firebrand
HERE. Scroll down to delquattro's comment.
28 posted on 01/20/2011 12:32:16 PM PST by firebrand
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To: editor-surveyor

Some nice tidbits.


29 posted on 01/20/2011 12:44:01 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: firebrand

HERE. Scroll down to delquattro’s comment.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The post was referring to an EU times article that was posted on another thread - according to one of the replies to his comment.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2659313/posts?page=23#23


30 posted on 01/20/2011 12:46:14 PM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow
Ok here is a question(s). According to police sources the nutbag was stopped for running a red light shortly before the shooting. According to those same sources he showed up at the shopping center in a cab. Also, his Father supposedly chased him on foot when he left the house a few hours before the shooting - NO VEHICLE.

What is the truth?

31 posted on 01/20/2011 12:46:33 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Whenifhow

32 posted on 01/20/2011 12:48:13 PM PST by Bratch
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To: Churchillspirit
Fuller but he F’ed it up.
33 posted on 01/20/2011 12:49:59 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Dupnik tried to do his part when he shot at Fuller. The only competent one of the bunch was Loughner and he got carried away. It was a Conspiracy of Dunces.


34 posted on 01/20/2011 1:05:51 PM PST by bkepley
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To: bkepley

Usually is!!!


35 posted on 01/20/2011 1:13:37 PM PST by mad_as_he$$ (V for Vendetta.)
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To: Whenifhow

Thanks.


36 posted on 01/20/2011 1:20:05 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Whenifhow

Didn’t Judge Roll just walk over to the Congresswoman? Who knew in advance that he would be there?


37 posted on 01/20/2011 1:25:49 PM PST by sportutegrl
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To: sportutegrl

Someone said on FR that the feds could only take control of the case if the judge had been there in an official capacity. Don’t know how true that is. Seems to me there could be other grounds for a federal crime. It was then claimed that he was there to discuss something official with Giffords.

But in O’s statement at the rally, he said that the judge had just haphazardly strolled over. That would certainly help the defense if the above is true. So why would O undermine the prosecution of his own Justice Department by making that statement?

It’s obvious that they wanted this nutcase in their hands rather than in the hands of the bozo in Arizona, before he said something they didn’t want him to say. All of this hinges on whether there is indeed no basis for a federal crime unless the judge was on official business.


38 posted on 01/20/2011 1:39:16 PM PST by firebrand
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To: Churchillspirit

“Only thing missing in this scenario is a “Jack Ruby” to silence the perp.”

The other conspirators were shooting from behind the grassy knoll.


39 posted on 01/20/2011 2:11:35 PM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Candor7; mad_as_he$$
"There was a handler , an older man the police were lookinng for. Is he in the video tapes?"

If we ever see any of the video, it will have been thoroughly sanitized.

The officer that called in the report of another gunman was obviously not in the "loop." Its doubtful that the media will carry any further discussion of this angle.

Judge Roll "did Obama wrong" and paid the price, much like Vince Foster, and Ron Brown, and 40 or more people did during the Clinton regime. Arkancides are now Ilinicides.

The American public is now about to be treated to the standard Democrat party intrigue.

40 posted on 01/20/2011 2:19:17 PM PST by editor-surveyor (NOBAMA - 2012)
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