Where are you getting the information about the Hawaiian Birth Index? If that’s the index for Certificates of Hawaiian Birth, that’s different than the Index of Foreign Births. The HDOH claimed to me that they don’t have any handwritten Index of Foreign Births, and if they have a computerized version they are refusing to show it to anybody.
A COHB was supposed to only be issued if the lieutenant governor was convinced that there was enough evidence according to evidentiary standards for a Hawaii birth to be considered substantiated. Depending on the lt gov, that could mean the record actually meant something, or it could have been given out to anybody. Depends on how corrupt the official was.
You would know better than me, that is for sure, and your efforts are much appreciated by all here.
I had seen somewhere, although I could be wrong, that in addition to the Index there were additional lists, UNRELEASED, or an additional index, listing 1,000 births outside hawaii that were later issued something like a COLB, and also that there were hundreds of disputed births.
But more importantly,
Do you agree with what I have read here on FR, that the Hawaiian Index of Births from 1917 to 1972 DOES NOT list Obama??
Is this accurate?
If what the HDOH has presented is accurate, then that’s true. Unfortunately, we always have to wonder whether the HDOH is telling the truth and presenting genuine records because they have been caught lying.
I’ve heard general claims that there were lots of claims to a Hawaii birth that weren’t really Hawaii births at all, but as far as I know it could only be documented by auditing the actual individual birth records and AFIK that has never been done.
There is a definite incentive for people to lie because if they were born in Hawaii and claim a certain percentage of native Hawaiian blood they can stand in line to receive land for free - and if Congress would pass the Akaka bill which Obama has promised to sign, almost all of the land in Hawaii would be up for grabs and (if I understand correctly) the whole state of Hawaii would become a big Indian reservation basically, with the US taxpayers paying basically reparations for having annexed Hawaii. And though it would be subsidized by the rest of the US, the Hawaii government would be sovereign.
That’s my understanding but I could be misunderstanding so if somebody knows otherwise, please correct me.
The point, though, is that there IS an incentive to be “native Hawaiian”. And within a week or two of Fukino’s July 2009 announcement about (legally non-valid, which she didn’t say) vital records verifying that Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama signed an executive order giving LOTS of financial and other kinds of aid to native Pacific-Islanders including native Hawaiians (which is Fukino’s pet project).
And recently Obama said he thought the US should go along with the UN in saying that people who are not indigenous to the land should not be able to own land - which would mean that my parents’ land would be taken away and given to Native Americans. And all of Hawaii’s land would go (via redistribution of some kind) to native Hawaiians.
So there is definitely motive to cheat.