Posted on 01/13/2011 10:16:28 AM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
No, I don't.
I already listed in my post a number of famous Brooklyn-born people who COULD have been delivered by me.
There is no way for me to pursue that, even if I wanted to. Medical records are not kept for longer than 25 years, I'm not a staff member there any more and I have no right to access any information that may still exist, and to go beyond something I could do with a phone call - why on Earth would I do that?
Very well said.
Yes indeed. That was a very bad day and I remember all those events and statements that you mention.
It's a very small contingent of Obots in relation to the number of FR posters against them. Overwhelmingly, FR posters do not believe that Obama is legally qualified to be president or have very serious doubts that he is qualified. They usually read the article and/or leave a single post or two and go about other issues on FR. However, after the thread has died down and scrolled off the front page, and after the average FR posters have left, here comes the After-Birthers to load it up with their propaganda.
Exactly!
Also Pinging a few not on the ping list. Hope you don't mind.
"But she was married to him. Not at conception, but by the time she gave birth. Unless thats a lie, too."
Here are Michelle 0bama's words:
His own mother, she (Michelle 0bama) said at the beginning of her remarks, was "very young and very single when she had him."
From:
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2008/07/10/4431794-michelle-obama-talks-fatherhood
You are right, their ranks have thinned.
A goodly number got escorted from the building. Maybe that put a bit of fear into the remaining ones. Haven’t noticed any noob ones lately.
“I forgot.
How about the ‘birth certificates’ he posted. Do you believe they (not ‘it,’ BTW) are real, or do you believe they help perpetrate a fraud?”
You’re getting off subject. Originally I was responding to a poster that said if they were ever accused of a crime and could offer evidence to clear their name, they’d do it. In such a case as Obama is found ineligible, certainly cases could be written up to trap him for perjury or fraud. But that’s irrelevant to the original point.
The hypothetical situation was that the poster was currently being accused of a crime. Proceedings against Obama are not of a criminal nature, hence my question as to what crime Obama’s being accused of. There obviously being none, the analogy was specious. He has no obligation to offer exculpate himself for the reasons given.
Do you think you might search your memory if you thought you had delivered a president?
First you tell me that because Landmark and Heritage won't pursue this, I should accept that as truth and move on. Then you tell me you can't speak for them and I need to question them directly? You obviously are convinced - what was it that convinced you they're right not to pursue it?
Bear with me, please. Hopefully you recognize that I am not a regular on the "birther" threads and I'm coming at this as one who silently questions what the real truth is. I just want to know the truth. Is it that even if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, he's still a NBC because of his mom's citizenship? Or do they believe he was indeed born in Hawaii?
I don't believe Landmark or Heritage are part of any conspiracy. I don't think it's unreasonable for them not to want to pursue something that has no chance of really being answered truthfully. I'm trying to think this through.
Why can't we just see an official Birth Certificate? Not this person saw that this person had that on file and "trust me, I'm from the government and I'm here to tell you the truth". Do you believe they indeed have the documentation and are keeping their powder dry for the most opportune moment? If so, isn't that a conspiracy theory in it's own right? All these officials who supposedly know the truth, but are keeping it under wraps in order to help Obama?
Too many unanswered questions to sit idly by and accept it, sorry.
But no Hawaiian doctor has come forward with a similar list. And you don't think that is odd? (And the doctor isn't the only one who might have had the opportunity to come in contact with baby Barry.)
ML/NJ
Thanks for putting the Obots/trolls into perspective. I appreciated your insights, as you are both far more knowledgeable than I am. [As an aside, RS, your story of Non-Sequitur made me laugh so hard the dog looked up. I WISH I could have seen that little sequence play out; it sounds priceless.]
I am trying to understand why people who do not sound at all like conservatives spend so much time posting on FR. It’s not as if they even make much—if any—effort to impersonate a conservative. If I had nothing better to do than post anti-leftist stuff on HuffPO or Kos, I would consider my life a sad, wasted failure.
It’s been an interesting thread. Thanks for the pings. I see the naysayers are active, too.
Cut the CRAP!
You asked me: "What fraud?"
I replied: "How about the birth certificates he posted. Do you believe they (not it, BTW) are real, or do you believe they help perpetrate a fraud?
It's only "off subject" because you do not want to deal with the subject.
ML/NJ
Probably, but the state of my 35-year ago memories regarding events that didn't grab me at the time is pretty poor - all the more so if we are talking, not about 1975, but 1961.
I really don't.
Patients somebody had 50 years ago? On TV, they would remember.
We're talking about reality here, I believe there is zero chance anyone would have a valid and reliable memory of the birth of this baby in 1961.
In fact, I can't understand why anyone would believe otherwise.
To know the truth? Seriously, if you were a physician or a nurse delivering babies at this hospital in Hawaii at the time Obama was born, you wouldn't be curious and try to find out if you were involved?
“Ok, but that doesn’t really help me with exactly what I want to know. Is the reason these organizations don’t take up this issue because they don’t believe it’s unconstitutional or because they believe Obama was born in Hawaii?
More afraid of Alinsky BS tactics. So they are moot on the Obama issue. But they know full well Obama is not an NBC regardless where he was born.”
Correct, RS. Think Goerge Allen/macaca. I think many, many conservatives missed one of the major points of that shameful episode. Yes, the MSM wanted to defeat Allen. But they ALSO wanted to send a message. To wit: touch The Won, and the smear, slime you’re-a-racist MSM mud-machine will turn on you like a monster, and It Will Never Stop. It will be ugly. It will be relentless. And you WILL be destroyed.
Anybody that doesn’t appreciate this fact just didn’t follow the Allen-macaca debacle. Day after day, week after week, month after month Allen was demonized, brutalized, smeared and savaged. Pols take notice of this type and level of viciousness. They are scared witless (if you get my drift) of running afoul of the MSM slander-machine. It’s a shame, but that’s the way it is.
Fortunately the truth will come out without their help. It will take a little more time, but the exposure of Obama’s fraud is inevitable. That will be the final (figurative) nail in the coffin of the MSM’s credibility. This is the legacy of all extreme Malignant Narcissists. They ultimately implode, and take their closest supporters with them.
JB Williams of Canada Free Press stated:
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999
(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member
of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and
state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama
does NOT meet Article II Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.
(snip)
But not ONE member of Americas most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal
on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.
(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity
are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup.
The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated
only by political self-preservation.
(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because
they see that none of their leaders are doing
anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. Its the right question, because those leaders
are NOT going to stop this thing.
Someone needs to get that link and quote on their hard drive. Thanks for the ping LucyT. I read this article with great interest this morning on another thread. It’s way past time for Obama to release all of his records and way past time for our leaders to demand that he do so.
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