Exclusive: Abercrombie, You're A Liar

The Obama File ^ | 12/26/2010 | Beckwith

[Beckwith]

Four newspaper web sites have had articles on Abercrombie and his views about "Birthers" in the past three days.  It seems to have started with the Los Angeles Times that was addressed here, and which should be read before this item.  Then The New York Times, the Chicago Tribune, the Honolulu Star Advertiser and Politico got in on the act.

This is a huge, coordinated political campaign by Abercrombie to discredit "Birthers."

But Abercrombie put his foot in it when he told Sheryl Gay Stolberg, writer for The New York Times, that he remembered Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham bringing the baby to social events.  The actual quote from the Times is:
    

"Mr. Abercrombie, 72, said that although he did not see the elder Obamas at the hospital with their newborn son, he did remember the couple bringing the baby to social events."

    
That statement is demonstrably a lie.  Stanley Ann Dunham left Hawaii days after Obama was born.  It was impossible for Abercrombie to see "the couple bringing the baby to social events," because Obama Sr. was in Hawaii, and Stanley Ann Dunham was in Seattle, Washington, 2678 air miles away.

Lets look at the evidence.

Anna and the infant Barry were in Washington state by August 1961, when she registered for classes at University of Washington using the Capitol Hill apartment address as her address.  Anna Dunham started night classes at the University of Washington's Fall semester on September 19, 1961.  She was living at that address in fall of 1962 when Barbara Cannon Rusk visited her.

Susan Blake, a former Mercer Island city councilwoman, recalls that Dunham, who was calling herself Ann Obama at the time, visited her at her house in Mercer Island during the last week of August, 1961 (search Scribd on "Blake").  Blake said that Anna left Honolulu just as soon she had clearance from her doctor to travel with her new baby.  He was just 3 weeks old the day of the visit.  Anna had sent a postcard that she would be in town, and was staying with a friend of her mother's.  She drove out to Blake's house in her mother’s friend's car, and Blake and Dunham spent the entire day together.

There once was a video all over the Internet, in which Susan Blake said Stanley Ann didn't know how to change diapers, and Dunham said to Blake, "Here, you do it."  Naturally, that video has disappeared, but there are references to it all over the Internet.  Google "Susan Blake" + "diapers" + "video"

Here is a copy of Anna's transcript from the University of Washington.  It clearly shows her to have begun classes in Seattle on August 19, 1961.  Anna took a full course load in the spring of 1962, and had her transcript transferred to the University of Hawaii after the fall 1962 semester.

Stanley Ann returned to Hawaii over the Christmas holiday period 1962/1963, and began classes at the University of Hawaii.  Here is the documentation from the University of Hawaii, and here is additional documentation from Stuart Lau, University Registrar, University of Hawaii, that demonstrates Anna was not attending classes at the University of Hawaii, between the Fall of 1960 semester and the Spring semester of 1963.

Meanwhile, Obama Sr. was in Hawaii, attending classes at the university.

When Senior moved to Hawaii in June of 1959, it has been well documented that he originally lived in a room at the Atherton Y.M.C.A., not far from campus.  He later moved to a small, single story wooden home located at 625 11th Ave., located in the St. Louis Heights area.  Senior remained at 625 11th Ave. until he left Hawaii on June 22, 1962 -- after graduation.

In an article in the Star-Bulletin, dated June 20, 1962, says, "A 1962 graduate, he [Obama Sr.] leaves next week...," and a second article about Barack H. Obama, in the Honolulu Advertiser, dated June 22, 1962, says, "The first African to graduate from the University of Hawaii leaves today..."

On his way east, Obama stopped in San Francisco and went to dinner at the Blue Fox in the financial district with Hal Abercrombie, who had moved to the city with his wife, Shirley.  Obama Sr. embarrassed the Abercrombies by, "...berating the guy [the waiter] and condescending every time the waiter came to our table.  There was a superiority and an arrogance about it that I didn't like."

There is no evidence, anywhere, that Obama Sr. and Anna ever lived under the same roof together, and this report says Hal Abercrombie, Neil's brother  said he never saw them together.  Drinking buddy, Pake Zane could not recall Ann from those days but had precise memories of Senior.

Years later, Abercrombie and another grad school friend looked up Obama Sr. during a trip through Africa.  At that point, the senior Obama was a bitter man, according to Abercrombie, feeling that he had been denied due opportunities to influence the running of his country.  "He was drinking too much; his frustration was apparent," Abercrombie said.

To Abercrombie's surprise, Senior never asked about Stanley Ann Dunham or Barry [Barack Obama].

This should be no surprise, because there never was a "marriage."  There's no better authority on Obama's life than his wife Michelle, and she tells us that his [Obama] own mother was "very young and very single when she had him."

Isn’t it comforting to know that the new governor of Hawaii is a bold-faced liar, and if he’s lying, guess what? 

Obama’s lying too.

[machogirl]

could be gramps is actually his daddy (the chin) and stanley is his sister.

[bgill]

I understand what you're saying but I still think the Seattle trip had something to do with Sr. No one has come forward to say they ever saw Ann and Sr. together except for the timely newly elected Hawaiian governor. One would think that there was someone somewhere who remembered her during those nine months but it's like she never had any friends or neighbors. Then there's the question of why she suddenly took off to Seattle and didn't return until Sr. left the island. Was that a condition of the pay off for standing in as the “daddy” or what? Was it that he'd stand in but didn't want her hanging around him and didn't want to have anything to do with the baby? It might very well be that it might have cost him his university scholarship to have a wife and kid. Sr. was never above taking a handout - that's how he got to Hawaii in the first place. He never had anything to do with little Barry as a child and only showed back up when Barry was shipped out of Jakarta and back to the Dunhams to raise. One of Barry's classmates at the elite private school, Punahau, said he remembered that Barry was there on scholarship. The classmate also recalled Sr. visiting the school and Barry claiming he was the son of a king (remember the sidewalk carving “King Obama”). Sr. came back for “family business” and the Dunhams footed his expenses while he was there. I suspect that visit was bought and paid for by the Dunhams to get little Barry a scholarship into the elite society of Hawaii and the King Obama story was just to elevate his standing up from illegitimate half breed status. It was then that the BC was amended (who knows how many times since then) because whatever was on the “original” BC and vaccination records that he found in typical white granny's closet wasn't what he'd always led to believe about his birth.

[bgill]

Make that little Barry = King Obama.

[jamese777]

I understand what you’re saying but I still think the Seattle trip had something to do with Sr. No one has come forward to say they ever saw Ann and Sr. together except for the timely newly elected Hawaiian governor. One would think that there was someone somewhere who remembered her during those nine months but it’s like she never had any friends or neighbors. Then there’s the question of why she suddenly took off to Seattle and didn’t return until Sr. left the island. Was that a condition of the pay off for standing in as the “daddy” or what? Was it that he’d stand in but didn’t want her hanging around him and didn’t want to have anything to do with the baby? It might very well be that it might have cost him his university scholarship to have a wife and kid. Sr. was never above taking a handout - that’s how he got to Hawaii in the first place. He never had anything to do with little Barry as a child and only showed back up when Barry was shipped out of Jakarta and back to the Dunhams to raise. One of Barry’s classmates at the elite private school, Punahau, said he remembered that Barry was there on scholarship. The classmate also recalled Sr. visiting the school and Barry claiming he was the son of a king (remember the sidewalk carving “King Obama”). Sr. came back for “family business” and the Dunhams footed his expenses while he was there. I suspect that visit was bought and paid for by the Dunhams to get little Barry a scholarship into the elite society of Hawaii and the King Obama story was just to elevate his standing up from illegitimate half breed status. It was then that the BC was amended (who knows how many times since then) because whatever was on the “original” BC and vaccination records that he found in typical white granny’s closet wasn’t what he’d always led to believe about his birth.

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ALLEGEDLY, Barbara Nelson, now of Kenmore, New York spoke with Obama’s birth doctor about Obama’s birth and his parents.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2170432/posts

[bgill]

Forgot about that “story.”

[Beckwith]

That’s what it says here:

http://www.theobamafile.com/_family/Senior.htm#ChristmasVisit

[John S Mosby]

Abercrombie and his pal Pak Zane, who owns an antique store in HI, went on a backpacking trip from college (a hippie trail type trip) and met up with obama, sr in Nairobi. Abercrombie is an old stonehead, social worker lefty from way back.
You should also check out his Lt. Gov running mate
Shatz, who amazingly enough went to the same school as obamba, Punahou School, and......tada! Did an internship in Kenya. His bio reads like a red diaper doper baby community organizer, Hawaii version. Things are not going to be too good in HI the next few years.

[John S Mosby]

Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we endeavor to deceive! Everyone keep record of all these postings and references. They will be sanitized, you may be assured.

[John S Mosby]

Abercrombie went to Univ. of Hi from 59 until 74, when he got his final degree. The facts of the birth date and the records of the travel by both Dunham and obama,sr, clearly shows there is NO way Abercrombie can say they, together, brought the baby o by at a social gathering. It didn’t happen. This is a crafted response by this old hippie stoner, he can “claim” all he wants- don’t make it so.

[LucyT]

. . . . Beckwith article:

Abercrombie, You're A Liar.

Lets look at the evidence.

[John S Mosby]

That is precisely why Abercrombie is doing this. This needs to be watched. Of course, the definition of “Natural Born” is quite clearly NOT the case, IF obama,SR is the real father, since at the time he was a Kenyan national.

The fact that individual states, TX among others are requiring the long form BC for ballot admittance is a real threat to these marxists. Every state legislature that has gone conservative needs to get these laws updated on their state books. Can’t be pres if you aint on all the ballots- unless that is their intent for the electoral college to fail to elect and drive this into the House? That won’t work now either. Hmmm.

[thecodont]

Thanks for the ping!

[Smokin' Joe]

So far, well over $1,000,000.00 and rising everyday. What could it be?

One mill? Two? Ten? Small potatoes for the control of trillions in loot.

Minor bid'ness expense.

[The Comedian]

There is panic in the House of Soetoro.

Good work Beckwith!

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[Cementjungle]

This is a huge, coordinated political campaign by Abercrombie to discredit "Birthers."

Yawn. What's the point? Zero already has been made president... the damage is done.

[x]

Zero’s Kenyan Grandmother says she was at his birth in Kenya.

Does she really? You hear that a lot, but it's unclear that she ever actually said it.

The first time she was said to have claimed that Obama was born in Kenya (the BBC interview) she didn't.

The second time (Ron McRae interview) there was so much confusion that it's hard to tell what was said, especially since we don't know the language she was speaking at the time.

[bgill]

And a huge thank you for keeping up with it all. Reading further down the page, I just noticed the bit about Sr.’s oddly positioned leg in the Christmas picture. That’s interesting. Can we assume that was the result of the accident where he killed a man or was this another accident prior to that one. There was one that caused him to lose both his legs and the final one that killed him. By my count, that’s at least three serious accidents rather than the two that have been reported. With him driving like Mr. Toad, who knows how many there were.

Also, wonder what secrets were told during the “Grinch” blow up. Oh, to have been a fly on that wall.

I computer died last month (no thanks to an AVG automatic update - never ever use that virus protection!) so I lost all my bookmarks. The statement made by the classmate was in a several page newspaper article - I’m thinking the local Honolulu paper. Can’t think of the guy’s name.

[anglian]

It is well documented that Abercrombie is a member of the Democratic Socialist of America, which he also publicly denies. The scribd document below contains the DSA member list which clearly list Abercrombie on page two. http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/08/neil-abercrombie-is-socialist-dsaer.html

[little jeremiah]

Old news but true, and gives people a chance to read it who missed it before.

[Eye of Unk]

If any person had actually crossed obamas past, went to school, was a neighbor, any person, they are probably very well paid to shut up.

Or they will be forced to be silent forever.

obama is like the viral video of the supposed million plus Lego’s ball that is over 6’ wide.

In reality it was a fake, it rolled a short distance and broke apart.

As long as obama has Presidential Executive privileges nobody dares to question him. But the same day he loses it is when the dam breaks.