Posted on 12/16/2010 11:23:09 AM PST by rxsid
"New Details From LTC Lakin's Court-Martial The Media Will Not Report; Concern About Obama's Eligibility Throughout the Chain-of-Command
This snippet posted below was published by Col. Sullivan from the CAAFlog blog(anti-Lakin). I'm very surprised Col. Sullivan was able to keep his ridicule of LTC Lakin down to a minimal in his latest writings on LTC Lakin's court-martial. What this blog shows is that there are real concerns about Obama's constitutional eligibility to be CiC all the way up the chain-of-command. I can't wait until the official trial transcripts are released.
Snippet via CAAFlog; LTC Lakin continued that he became the chief of primary care at the Pentagon’s clinic in July 2009. Mr. Puckett then observed that the purpose of the hearing was for the members to determine an appropriate sentence. He then discussed the origins of LTC Lakin’s offenses."He testified that he started to have concerns about the Constitution during the primary elections, when he was stationed at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. He learned that there was controversy as to the natural-born-citizen status of both major political parties’ general election candidates. He said Senator McCain provided everything he could to address his status, including a birth certificate with the doctor’s name and hospital’s name. He compared that with the lack of scrutiny that Senator Obama received. He had questions about the image of a certificate of live birth on the Internet and relatives stating they were present at his birth in Kenya. He said he had an open mind, but he was skeptical. One candidate went through scrutiny, but there was a lack of information as to the other.
Mr. Puckett pressed, “Why were you so interested in this?” I think he expected the answer to be because of the oath of office, but LTC Lakin instead gave an answer about reading newspapers. LTC Lakin testified that after the election, he became “extremely concerned.” He said the issue wasn’t about politics or anything else (probably an implicit denial of racism) but the Supreme Law of the Land. He stated that he “wanted a valid Commander-in-Chief.” He testified that after the election, he was no longer comfortable with being selected for deployment. He was “concerned that the Constitution wasn’t being followed.” He believes his “oath as an officer is to protect and defend the Constitution.” He believed questions about the President’s eligibility “may weaken the Constitution.” He said he doesn’t know if the President is ineligible and he doesn’t believe that anyone can know.
Neal Puckett asked, “What did you do as a soldier.” LTC Lakin said his “sought out advice” from his command and from his friends. He contacted legal assistance at Aberdeen Proving Grounds, who said they would research the issue and get back to him, but then they would never return his calls. He talked to his commander and supervisor who said there was an issue and there were questions, but they did not know what to do to answer them. He then filed an Article 138 complaint. He was asking, “Please, someone in my command, tell me there’s not an issue about illegal orders.” He submitted the Article 138 complaint to his company commander and asked him to forward it. The reply he received back was that his Article 138 complaint was deficient, so the Army didn’t have to answer it.
LTC Lakin then wrote letters to his two Senators and Congressman. One Senator didn’t reply. One said the issue had been raised “and Twittered about and been found not to be an issue.” His Congressman forwarded his letter to Military Affairs.
He continued to “pursue what else I could do.” When he was transferred to the Pentagon, he raised the issue with his clinic’s commander. He “acknowledged concern” but had no guidance as to what to do. LTC Lakin then submitted another Article 138 complaint, this one routed through General Casey. (BTW, it would later come out that he was referred to Paul Rolf Jensen while he was at Aberdeen Providing Ground, so it seems likely that he was working with Mr. Jensen at the time he filed this Article 138 complaint.) The response he received back was that General Casey wasn’t in his chain of command, so his Article 138 complaint wouldn’t be addressed.
LTC Lakin then became aware he was “on the short-list for deployment. This greatly concerned me.” He went to Capitol Hill for face-to-face meetings with one Congressman and high-level staffers. He was told that the issue was a concern, but the media ridiculed it, so they let it go.
He was advised to go to Afghanistan and then raise the issue while he was on deployment. He considered this a “worse” option. He said it would be “extremely wrong to raise this in a combat zone.”
Mr. Puckett asked, “You thought if the Commander-in-Chief wasn’t eligible, you thought your deployment order might retroactively be considered an illegal order.” LTC Lakin agreed.
Mr. Puckett asked when LTC Lakin first sought the advice of an attorney. He answered that it was two-and-a-half years ago. He was the leader of an intermediate level school small group. There were JAGs in the group. He discussed his concerns with the JAGs and asked what he should do. One of the JAGs referred him to Paul Jensen and LTC Lakin called him. He said he “ultimately hired” Mr. Jensen.
He then testified about receiving his deployment orders. At the bottom of the orders, it said he had to bring a copy of his birth certificate. He said, “I thought, there’s an issue here.” That was followed first by laughter from the birthers in the audience, and then by applause, bring another sharp, “Members of the gallery!” from Judge Lind.
He said that in March 2010, he turned to Mr. Jensen for legal advice. When asked about Mr. Jensen’s advice, LTC Lakin replied, “There’s a Kenyan birth certificate.” He said that on Mr. Jensen’s advice, he decided not to deploy. Mr. Puckett then asked, “Who made the decision to say to your command, ‘I’ll deploy if the President shows he’s eligible?’” LTC Lakin said he did. Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose fault was it?” LTC Lakin replied, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett asked, “Whose responsibility was it?” LTC Lakin answered, “Mine.” Mr. Puckett elicited LTC Lakin’s response that he didn’t think his orders were illegal, but he “still thought there was a constitutional issue.”
He agreed with Mr. Puckett that he used his deployment orders as a vehicle to increase the level of attention that the issue would receive. He confirmed that there were “lots of people urging you to stick to your guns.” In a reply likely to hurt him with the members, he answered: “Yes, including enlisted members and officer members.”
From: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2010/12/details-from-ltc-lakins-court-martial.html
Damn it!! There are questions IN the military! The country DESERVES To know the truth about Barry and whether or not he's Constitutionally qualified. Enough already with the obfuscation! This isn't a freakin game.
Well then, if the media says so.........seriously?
Doesn't that in effect make the MSM the de facto ruler of this nation? May God help us all.
At least for the highest levels of leadership it certainly does look that way.
And...For posting this some Obot is sure to accuse me of having contempt for our military. That of course is absolutely not the case. Our fine military deserve to have a legitimate Commander in Chief...**all** of them...even the highest officers.
How can having this cloud of doubt over Obama's eligibility be good for morale. If Obama is doing this for political traction against the Republicans, then it is OBAMA who holds the military in contempt for using them as political pawns.
Perhaps some in this new freshman class can be reminded of why they were elected and that representatives ignoring this issue because the "media" ridicules it is simply not acceptable. Maybe...just maybe, if enough people write such letters to them...maybe this new group will listen and actually do something about it. Of course, we won't know what they will do until we try. Admittedly, that's a whole lot-a maybe's. However, until then, we continued to spread this information out in public. Information truly is power!
You and I both.
The contempt is for the military echelon that betray their commands. The visceral loathing is for the ROE that get our men killed. The spite and putrifyingly apparent need is to know that the bleeding of American goodwill and tolerance can be cauterized and will be.
It hurts. It’s supposed to. And it makes history in so doing.
This is how patriots are made.
“I have not yet begun to fight”?
Neither have we.
Now THAT I can do, have been doing, and will continue to do! Plus prayer, been doing that a bunch also.
>> If a conservative website can’t come to this officer’s defense why would we think anyone else would?
I hate to admit it, but I’ve given up. We’re well on the road to tyranny and I no longer see any way out of it. We’re toast when our own military won’t defend us any longer.<<
I have come to the same conclusion gramma. Unfortunately the example of the troops in Germany under Hitler was a stark reminder of what will happen in this country. Like you said, “if a conservative website can’t come to this officer’s defense” in a cohesive manner regardless of whether he is right or wrong we are toast. To find out if he is right is more important and would be the right thing to do. To sit behind a computer screen and scream “we are sick of the lies” and then claim “he is on his own because he broke the law” is shameful and telling.
I’ve been mortified to see some of the comments in this forum.
Yes indeed!
To sit behind a computer screen and scream “we are sick of the lies” and then claim “he is on his own because he broke the law” is shameful and telling.
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Absolutely!
Retired Generals Paul Vallely and Thomas McInerney have both made public their support for LTC Lakin.
WikiLeaks can disclose 250,000 State Department documents but no one single document related to the greatest fraud perpetrated on the American citizenry. It just tells you that Obama and Assange are in cahoots with our defacto leader George Soros.
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The more the pressure they feel from their constituents, the more likely they will be to actually do something. If they hear crickets, we can expect to continue to hear crickets.
I completely agree. The dictatorship has arrived, and the sissified, politicized nation of once strong men and women simply caved in. Lining us up at the gulags isn’t a far stretch — look how easily they made everyone line up to be molested (or at minimum groped or irradiated) by TSA.
Indeed they have, and it’s believe that it was through them (Valley in particular) that Lakin was put in contact with his current civilian lawyer, Puckett.
Or maybe it tells us that Obama was actually born in Hawaii, USA in 1961 to Barack Obama Sr. and Stanley Ann Dunham.
Lakin should have just asked Snopes if obama is eligible or if that failed, asked his senator to look into it for him.
Then he would have gotten the same 'obama is eligible' form letter from his senator that the rest of us got and he could use the form letter for his chain of command. All orders flow from the form letter.
Obviously he didn’t decide to disobey his deployment orders simply based on an opinion. He sought advice and guidance at every level of command and through his Congressional representatives and what he got back from them did more to confirm his reservations than to pacify them. The DoD proved itself unaccountable for its own command structure and it remains in that state today.
It’s time for our Military to “man up!”, Time for them to protect “US” from all enemies both foreign and domestic! There was an attempted take over of our United States of America from a Communist coup that got a illegal foreign puppet elected POTUS! This is the closest we ever came to being overthrown from within. Stand up and fight the Evil! Our future is in grave peril! This situation is far from being over. “They” are still trying to steal a trillion dollars before we throw them out in January. STOP THEM NOW! Wake Up America! Fight to remain FREE!
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