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TSA Agent Takes Child From Parent
My Bottle's Up ^ | 11/22/10 | Nicole

Posted on 11/22/2010 3:06:22 PM PST by ranair34

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To: ml/nj

http://www.tsa.gov/blog/2009/10/response-to-tsa-agents-took-my-son.html

(Source is sketchy in my opinion)


41 posted on 11/22/2010 4:50:10 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: ranair34

tap


42 posted on 11/22/2010 5:03:29 PM PST by madamemayhem (defeat is not getting knocked down, it is not getting back up.)
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To: seawolf101

I guess this is TSA pervert sensitivity: Never molest the baby in front of his mother.


43 posted on 11/22/2010 5:06:19 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: coop71
Thanks for posting this. It is not clear to me why a mother would take the time to invent the story. I would be interested to learn what she has to say about this video. It is she; or is this just some other mother who was detained the same day?

Whatever, it sure doesn't speak well for Blogger Bob and his friends. First the woman shown here has to cool her heels in some isolation booth fo a minute or two while seemingly no one pays attention to her. The she is subject to repeated spread eagle wanding. It's sort of a mystery watching this why they ever let this threat to society proceed on her way.

ML/NJ

44 posted on 11/22/2010 5:25:14 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: livius

Where did say because part of the story was not true the rest is ok ?


45 posted on 11/22/2010 5:26:56 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: ml/nj

She confirms it is her and her kidlet shown in the video, on this website:

http://consumerist.com/2009/10/tsa-takes-baby-away-from-mother.html

I tend to “dilute” dramatic experience stories from other people by about 20-40%. Many people tend to over-dramatize and embellish their experiences that are already dramatic enough. That said, I also dilute the other party’s story - in this case the TSA - as well, if it’s a two-party drama.

I was very confused by the incredibly long “wanding”/search toward the end. This alone would have ticked me off. But, I did not buy this woman’s full story. Sorry as I am for her and her kid, it didn’t add up. I’m also not trusting the TSA’s version. At all. Please don’t mistake my disbelief for being lax in my outrage at the TSA in general. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH with their unlawful searches!

This happened over a year ago...I will do some digging to see if this was ever fully resolved.


46 posted on 11/22/2010 5:45:15 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: ml/nj
Lucky for me the power to ban is not in your hands as it seems that actual video backs my “believe” as you put it this story has a few holes in it

I will not be waiting for a apology as you are probably not man enough to admit you were wrong in your post to me

47 posted on 11/22/2010 5:48:08 PM PST by Popman (Obama. First Marxist to turn a five year Marxist plan into a 4 year administration.)
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To: Popman
I will not be waiting for a apology as you are probably not man enough to admit you were wrong in your post to me

You're right. You get no apology from me. Maybe you noticed that someone else posted something useful here concerning this, and I thanked him. He didn't tell me he had a "belief." Beliefs about the good intentions of government leeches are just too liberal for me.

ML/NJ

48 posted on 11/22/2010 5:56:47 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: coop71
Actually, it looks like she is sticking to her story.
http://www.mybottlesup.com/2009/10/my-apologies/
ML/NJ
49 posted on 11/22/2010 6:04:55 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: coop71; ml/nj; All
Update from my digging online. Since I don't have the time to view all 9 videos released from the TSA, I'll refer you to this summary (it's long but relevant) in the comment section of this blog:

http://freerangekids.wordpress.com/2009/10/19/tsa-took-my-baby-hoax/

"It’s true that the video posted on Friday was edited — but it was edited for length and, well, boringness, not to mislead. They’ve since added an update, with 9 separate videos, showing the complete feeds from each of the cameras that caught any view of any part of the incident, from the time she first appears in a camera’s view until she’s out of its range. They’re complete feeds, without any gaps, and the timestamps match as she moves from one camera’s view to the next. Her son is in her arms from the time she picks him up after putting his stroller on the conveyor belt until she sits down with him on her lap in the screening area; after he’s patted down while seated on her lap, she, not the TSA agent, picks him up again and puts him in the stroller and secures him there. And there he stays, during the entirety of her screening; there are a couple of times when the TSA agent performing the screening obscures the camera’s view of the child, but not for more than 2-5 seconds at a time, which is longer than it took her to buckle him in in the first place, and as soon as the agent moves you can see that the child is still buckled in the stroller.

After her screening, you can see her pick up her stuff and get everything together to leave, and then in another camera’s view, you can see a distant back view of the screening, and watch her assemble the stuff and exit the screening area completely, pushing the kid in the stroller.

There is just no time for the events she described to have occurred. The timestamps match, and there are no gaps in the movements of other people as there would be if footage were cut, and if someone is good enough at CGI to fake this, they aren’t making government wages."

*I added the paragraphs so it's easier to read*

This is just another opinion and I do not accept it as fact since I haven't watched all 9 videos in their entirety. But it's interesting. Sort of. :)

And once again, don't assume I am defending the TSA by following this story and trying to get to the bottom of it.

50 posted on 11/22/2010 6:25:57 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: ml/nj

Yup. Sure does. Now I do need to find time to watch the 9 TSA videos in their entirety before moving on from this. Thanks for the link.


51 posted on 11/22/2010 6:34:26 PM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: panthermom

I had an emergency Xanax in my jeans pocket. I always carry an emergency Xanax in my pocket. The result of severe anxiety.

I took the pill, but it did very little. I was so traumatized that it would’ve taken probably 4 Xanax to get my blood pressure back down to a normal level.


52 posted on 11/22/2010 10:14:59 PM PST by CGASMIA68
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To: t1b8zs

Yes AFTER they returned the child not before!!! Your comment made it sound like she was doped up and that is why she let them have her son!


53 posted on 11/23/2010 4:15:13 AM PST by panthermom
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To: coop71; ml/nj

I watched the video. Keeping in mind the source (sketchy as Coop71 said), I will say the video “appears” to support blogger Bob.

“Appears” being the key word. I see someone in a hurry whose stress is increased by having to stand in a glass box with a toddler in her arms and then having to hurry up and wait. I wonder what blogger bob did not include from CCTV.

I do not understand why they blurred out the wand. It makes me wonder how intimate the wand is with a person’s body.


54 posted on 11/23/2010 4:29:56 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

I *think* they blur the secondary “wanding” because they do a more complete pat down as well as the wanding, and it’s a privacy issue. The screener unbuttons the woman’s jeans, etc., if I recall correctly.

Something else that has been bugging me: I read the pacifier clip from the kidlet wasn’t really problem. It was the mom’s knee brace and she wasn’t telling screener she had one.

Weird.


55 posted on 11/23/2010 5:11:30 AM PST by coop71 (Being a redhead means never having to say you're sorry...)
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To: coop71

I noticed that as well.
Weird is an understatement.


56 posted on 11/23/2010 5:23:47 AM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: marron
TSA better correct this and I mean yesterday.

It would be the prefect situation for a pedophile to get access to a child.

57 posted on 11/23/2010 5:25:23 AM PST by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free, Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Popman

This story took place in October of 2009. TSA released 9 video camera angles of this incident, disproving this woman’s claims.

Sorry, it’s a blog, but it does contain video footage.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2009/10/response-to-tsa-agents-took-my-son.html


58 posted on 11/23/2010 6:52:25 AM PST by Kariz0rz
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To: ranair34

You do realize that this blog post was written over a year ago, right? This had nothing to do with the “NEW” screening procedures. And, it highlights how people have seen these things happening for a WHILE - NOT that it makes ANY of it any better.


59 posted on 11/23/2010 9:34:04 PM PST by LibertyRocks
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