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To: butterdezillion
Is that problematic for you?

I wouldn't know, I've never tried to dig up anyone's records.

And they are still breaking laws in their dealings with me.

Because they won't do what you want.
Are you going to sue? Try to "gets de money"? Or what?

Obama will be a former President long before any such action is complete.

So what the hell is the point?

How about focusing on voting him out? That act has a history of success.

56 posted on 09/22/2010 1:53:33 PM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: humblegunner

Not because they won’t do what I want. Because they won’t do what the law says.

I am working on voting Obama out.

But voting him out is not going to change the corruption. The corruption is beyond just him. If we get rid of him we’ve got a million wannabe’s right behind him wanting to do the same stuff he does. Soros has more puppets than he knows what to do with. This isn’t about Obama. It’s about a broken system. As long as we have this system in place - corrupt and with no way for the people to force the rule of law to be followed - we’re going to get the same results.

You know, they say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. We’ve elected republicans and we’ve elected democrats and both parties are getting away with crap because once they’re in office they don’t have to follow the rules and laws any more. They put their buddies into the positions to enforce the law, and they’re free as a bird to whatever they darn well please.

See, for me this is not really about Obama at all. Yes, I want Obama gone. But if we cut off that Hydra’s head there will be 3 more where the stump is left, unless we cut out the corruption at its roots.

The Founding Fathers knew that there will ALWAYS be corruption - except when there are powerful checks and balances to deter corruptocrats because they know they don’t stand a chance of getting away with it. And that’s what we have to re-establish. It starts with every government, media, and law enforcement entity in this nation. When every one of them fears the power that we have to hold them to the law and to expose the truth, THEN the system will work.

Until then, we’re arguing and bickering about who killed who. We’re fighting over who gets to screw us next.

We fight the battles one at a time. But when the corruptocrats see that we’re no longer asleep they may begin to take us - and the rule of law - seriously.

And that’s what I’m in this for. I want my kids to live in a world where there is the rule of law, because to hand them anarchy or oppression would be unthinkable to me.


58 posted on 09/22/2010 2:16:58 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: humblegunner

The “point”, as you like to call it, has to do with lawlessness.

As for lawlessness being “problematic”, it better be a problem for everyone and that includes you, too.

I particularly don’t want the precedent of a foreign national as president ignored BECAUSE no one gave enough of a damn to try and get the usurper removed.


60 posted on 09/22/2010 2:20:56 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO FOREIGN NATIONALS AS OUR PRESIDENT!)
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To: humblegunner

Humblegunner,

The long and short of it is this.

Hawaii is covering up Citizenship and welfare fraud on a HUGE scale.

Obama got his COLB most likely the same way thousands of other babies did who were actually born somewhere OTHER than Hawaii. A late birth form filed with an address listed as the place of birth.

Now, because of THAT, Obama CANNOT prove where he was born.

If he has a Late Form or a long form with a residential address on it, he cannot prove he was born in Hawaii. Why? Because Hawaii was ACTIVELY registering babies as born within the state in order to qualify for MORE federal dollars from the U.S. Government.

Hawaii literally registered thousands of babies doing this, and a vast number of them, not having been born in the United States, have no right to the United States Citizenship they were given.

Hawaii isn’t covering for Obama. Its is covering Citizenship Fraud and welfare fraud.

Obama just happened to get caught up in that!

Maybe his grandmother made use of that if he was born in Kenya as people suspect.

Maybe his own mother did when she recognized that her baby would benefit from having American Citizenship. Maybe she did it to spite Obama Sr. for having another wife she didn’t know about, who the heck knows. One way or another, Obama has a form that does not prove his right to American Citizenship.

But THAT was an accident. That is what people have used to say, “oh yea right, like grandma knew he was gonna be POTUS one day and would need a newspaper announcement”. No. Obama’s circumstance just happened to fall in a time when the State of Hawaii was committing Welfare and citizenship Fraud.

THAT is why the republican governor is covering this up. It’s not about Obama, its about the crimes the State Committed the time of Obama’s birth and for YEARS after it as well.

Obama just happens to be shining a HUGE spotlight on the steaming pile of poo laid by the State.

Obama is TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT. He knows Hawaii isn’t going to admit anything, or stop covering his butt. Obama knows what Hawaii was up to and likely used it as some HARD leverage against the state.

Hawaii isn’t covering Obama. Hawaii is covering its OWN butt, Obama is just USING it to his advantage.


62 posted on 09/22/2010 2:33:37 PM PDT by Danae (Analnathrach, orth' bhais's bethad, do che'l de'nmha.)
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