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Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
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| Alvie D. Zane
Posted on 09/16/2010 10:02:30 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
My note: edited for this family friendly forum.
Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
Charles Krauthammer has a few thoughts about those endorsing Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. Link here. He's going to get both barrels from me on the other side.
Link to youtube here Krauthammer: The Palin endorsement, I think, is disruptive and capricious. Bill Buckley had a rule that he always supported the most conservative candidate who was electable, otherwise the vote is simply self-indulgence.
Baier: Now Jim DeMint, from South Carolina, also endorsed Christine O'Donnell.
Krauthammer: equally capricious and irresponsible. I'm not sexist on this. It's a big mistake. …
Dear Charles:
I saw the video, heard your remarks.
Now you hear this:
No more compromise. No more equivocation. No more dilution. No more weaseling. No more pro-gun control. No more pro-abortion. No more Olympia Snowes. No more Arlen Sphincters. No more Susan Collinses. No more Larry "wide stance" Craigs. No more Duke Cunninghams. No more Bushes. No more McCains. No more Viagra Conservatives who need "help" to stay true to principle. No more empty holsters. No more negotiation. No more retreat. Not one step back!
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Elena Kagan and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Amnesty and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who proposes Campaign Finance Reform and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who supports Cap and Trade and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who talks principles and votes pragmatism and I'll show you self-indulgence.
Following your logic, it's clear why the GOP nominated Dede Scazzofazzo for NY-23. How did she do in that race anyway? It's clear why the entire GOP apparatus was mobilized time and again through the last few decades to support Benedict Arlen in his primary challenges in Pennsylvania. And it's also clear why the GOP has been led by Viagra conservatives in purple pimpstriped suits. They are only interested in connecting to pocketbooks and not people-and certainly not principle.
In case no one told you this Charles, the age of Bill Buckley is over. We're dealing with people who make clear with their every act that they intend to destroy America. Presumably the British should also have voted for Chamberlain over Churchill. I mean they were both from the same party and Chamberlain having been elected as Prime Minister was clearly electable while Churchill had been in a political exile. Oh, and clearly Buckley's "wisdom" must have rubbed off on his son Christopher who endorsed Obama in the last Presidential election.
Pray tell, what is your stance on the self-indulgence of people like Charlie Crist who-beaten in a primary race then reneges on his pledge to remain in the GOP and instead run for US Senate as an independent-thus splitting the vote? What about Lisa Murkowski who flirted with doing likewise to retain her birthright to the US Senate seat in Alaska? Or how about the self-indulgence of the aforementioned Benedict Arlen? (I'm still laughing about that one.)
Let's take a brief diversion to Middle Earth for a comparison and contrast of leaders:
Denethor is the steward of Gondor charged only with keeping the kingdom until the king rerturns. But he has looked too many times into the palantir (seeing stones) and seen precisely what the eye of Sauron has wanted him to see. For this reason, Denethor is defeatist in his attitude and though he sees doom coming his way, he does little to prepare for it. Denethor's end is a direct result of this defeatist end.
Theoden, king of Rohan is under the spell of Saruman and is "counseled" by Grima Wormtongue. Theoden is my favorite character in Lord of The Rings. Maybe it's the change that Theoden goes through. From a compromised, controlled leader in the palm of the enemy, he regains his strength, regains his purpose, and regains his honor. You see iron will of Theoden come through in that he will fulfill his oath, defend his people, and regain his honor at any cost. In the movie especially, you get the sense that Theoden knows what it will cost. One of his captains says to him, "We do not have the strength to defeat the armies of Mordor." "No", he agrees. Then he utters perhaps my favorite line in the entire 4,508,151,225 pages of The Lord Of The Rings. "But we shall meet them in battle nonetheless."
Denethors like Krauthammer are overcome with a defeatist attitude that victory isn't possible so we'd better settle for tactical retreats and peace in our time. It is people like this that sacrifice great for the sake of good. Oh, and just for disclosure Charles, exactly what did you see when you looked into the palantir? Seriously, what did you and HusseinO talk about in your January 2009 dinner with him and other like-minded, empty holstered, Viagra conservative pundits? Or did you think we'd forgive and forget that?
Theodens like Christie O'Donnell are willing to risk defeat in pursuit of victory. I believe that the surge of the Tea Parties in our day is similar to the last charge of the Rohirrim at the armies of Mordor assailing Minas Tirith. If the charge fails, then we're all doomed.
Deneth-sorry, Charles, what you are saying is that while you blue-blooded RINOS expect people to swallow their principles (again) to vote for your pragmatism in September, you will take your pragmatism and go home before you'll vote for their principles in November (or any other time for that matter). Well here's what I say to that:
Pretty please. I dare you wussies to do it. Please show us your true colors so that we would know your deeds and could know that you either for us or against us. I wish you bastards would show us whether you are hot or cold.
In case no one told you this Charles, had the GOP upheld their oath and did their jobs in 2001 when they controlled the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives, then we wouldn't be in this f***ing mess now. You coddle them for failing to lead and condescend to those who would have them get out of the way so that real leaders might replace them. You sir have earned a trip to the cone of shame.
I'm Alvie D. Zane and I approved this message.
TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: delaware; krauthammer; odonnell
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To: Neil E. Wright
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:28:32 AM PDT
by
dforest
To: Neil E. Wright
Thanks to you, Neil, and other patriots at this thread. What a great exchange! You guys verbalize so much more articulately than any “articles’ I’ve seen, even from “Conservative” journalists. I have been asked to write an editorial for a group I belong to and you have given me fodder this morning.
I am really sick of faux Conservatives “I’m a Republican”, some of whom are family members! My kids know that to express any even remotely liberal ideas in this house is to be written out of the will.
But my daughter and son in law suggest that any Republican is better than none and while we are at it, why don’t we amend the Constitution to make it more modern? Finally, “Rush is too extreme!” Oh please..
You better be making a good salary, guys, cuz you are so on the edge of losing any future inheritance! :-)
I get furious at family dinners and feel like throwing mashed potatoes at them.
As for friends who say, “We just don’t go there” or “I”m not sure where they stand on politics”, you are linguine spined wusses!
I pronounce my right leanings, love of country and commitment to the principles of the founding fathers to the grocery store clerk and the garbage man. You betcha.
Who cares about discretion and being politically correct? We are in the fight of our lives and we need to stand on the shoulders of Ronald Reagan.
Thanks for letting me vent! :-)
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posted on
09/17/2010 8:35:23 AM PDT
by
Mountain Mary
(Ryan/Bachmann 2012)
To: Hildy
And all that thinking has gotten us where we are. Well..were about to see how much change people really want, wont we? If we lose...its the end..."Your thinking is 100% backward (not meant as an insult. Take it literally).
They will say, see, we lost because you stood on principle and did not support a liberal, abortion loving, gun rights taking, tax and spend Republican. Our answer must be, you lost because you ignored us. And you will keep losing until you pay attention to the conservative base.
What your position does not take into account is that we have already been losing. That is what has brought us near to the end.
Let me correct your last sentence. "If they lose...it's the beginning..."
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posted on
09/17/2010 9:12:13 AM PDT
by
gunsequalfreedom
(Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
To: kevkrom
well..we’re about to see if the voters will come out.
64
posted on
09/17/2010 8:00:00 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: STARWISE
65
posted on
09/17/2010 8:10:50 PM PDT
by
SunkenCiv
(Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
To: Hildy
"As much as I hope she wins...my gut is telling me we just gave up any chance of getting the Senate back." If we were to take the Senate back with Castle-type RINOs, the balance of power would lie with those same RINOs - I'm thinkin' Gang of 14 multiplied by 50. We could all watch with breathless anticipation, while McCain "reaches out" to compromise on amnesty, cap and trade, healthcare and so much more.
The worst part would be knowing we followed the Party and voted for the a-holes who sold us out.
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posted on
09/17/2010 8:25:27 PM PDT
by
Flag_This
(Real presidents don't bow.)
To: Flag_This
I can’t argue with you. I agree with everything you say.
67
posted on
09/17/2010 8:27:31 PM PDT
by
Hildy
To: Hildy
"I cant argue with you. I agree with everything you say." Oh...well...I'll be off then.
68
posted on
09/17/2010 8:29:12 PM PDT
by
Flag_This
(Real presidents don't bow.)
To: Flag_This
It doesn’t happen often!!!!
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posted on
09/17/2010 9:38:46 PM PDT
by
Hildy
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