“Index data consisting of name and sex of the registrant, type of vital event, and such other data as the director may authorize shall be made available to the public.”
I see what you’re saying but the HDOH says there is no “other such data as the director” has authorized. They say index data authorized for release is type of event, name, and gender.
If the director can authorize anything and everything to be released for just certain people, I don’t understand what HRS 338-18a even means or why it exists. Is it just to say the director can do whatever she wants but nobody in her office can? Maybe it depends on how it’s interpreted. Maybe the only limits to Fukino are the exceptions listed in UIPA. I don’t know.
But I do know that Fukino has been using HRS 338-18a as the catch-all reason for not releasing anything. Neither she nor the AG’s office will say why all of a sudden HRS 338-18a doesn’t forbid her from making an announcement of the birthplace listed on Obama’s records.
And that’s on reason that I agree that a big problem is Fukino lying about what she supposedly can’t release. The Ombudsman caught her in that lie but apparently refused to do anything about it.
The newspaper announcements were a continuous-running thing. Announcements were printed as much as a month after the birth so space issues wouldn’t have been the deciding factor. And even accounting for the locations of the births, I think about a third of the births the CDC Natality Report listed for Oahu in August 1961 (for instance) didn’t get printed in the Star-Bulletin. The Nordyke twins, for instance, were born in Honolulu and never made it into the Star-Bulletin even though there were days around then when the paper had no birth announcements listed at all and could easily have fit their announcement.
Hopefully I’ll soon have the last bit of information I need in order to do a complete summary of what we know about the birth announcement situation. Feels like I’ve been saying that forever but you wouldn’t believe the amount of obfuscation involved. Well... you know enough about this stuff that you probably do know what I’m dealing with. lol.
I agree with you that if information has been released to the public for birth announcements, or even just a posting at the HDOH office that was available for public viewing, it makes it disingenuous for the HDOH to argue that they can’t release that information. If they couldn’t release it, then why did they already release it?
And you’re absolutely dead-on about the birth certificate number. That, right there, is the Achilles heel that could expose this whole mess, and they know it and are circling the wagons.
The passport situation is another thing which is very quickly becoming a legal problem for Obama and his minions. Watching that one develop is like watching hot and cold fronts moving toward each other and knowing it’s only a matter of time before the tornadic rotation begins. The proverbial excrement hitting the rotating object. If it was all just a game and wasn’t putting the nation in jeopardy, it would be hilarious to watch.
I don't see the problem. It would prevent people from walking in off the street and going through the records and it restricts staff (other than the director) from making excessive disclosures and handing out copies of records to anyone and eveyrone.
But I do know that Fukino has been using HRS 338-18a as the catch-all reason for not releasing anything.
Right, hoping people didn't read the rest of the law and see that there were legal exceptions and allowances. It's not like they volunteered the release of index data. It was dedicated people like you who started reading these laws and realizing the DOH wasn't telling the whole story and the whole truth.
The newspaper announcements were a continuous-running thing. Announcements were printed as much as a month after the birth so space issues wouldn’t have been the deciding factor.
I don't think it's safe to make this assumption. Filling a newspaper is a day-to-day decision. All the advertisements are placed first, and then whatever space is leftover is filled according to how much space is leftover. I don't think you can assume there was a consistent policy of trying to include every birth announcement and making good several days later for things that didn't originally fit. I'm sure they might fill up spaces with older announcements. It just kind of depends on what was available for whoever was editing that particular page. For a city of that size and for as many birth as should have occurred per day, it doesn't seem realistic to assume they tried to print every birth announcement and certainly not a regular, timely basis.