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To: Idabilly
The Constitution was formed to create a 'more perfect union' replacing the less stable, Articles of Confederation.

The 'states' didn't become 'states' until they, as members of the congressional congress,declared independence as the united states of America. Before that, they were simply 'united colonies'.

151 posted on 09/07/2010 10:16:14 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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To: fortheDeclaration

“The ‘states’ didn’t become ‘states’ until they, as members of the congressional congress,declared independence as the united states of America. Before that, they were simply ‘united colonies’. “

According to the articles of confederation(1777) they retained their independents.

Are you alleging that when replaced the Articles with the Constitution in 1788 with the our states not only lost their independents but lost their “inalienable right” to ever regain that independents?

Why would our founders enter into such an insane contract after fought such a bloody war to get out of anther contract with had no legal “exit clause”?

Well the truth is as they said countless times again and again didn’t. The right to revolution/secession is inalienable, the mere mention of it in the constitution adds the foolish idea that it could be prohibited.

Just like most of the rights not mentioned in our constitution and thus reserved to the people and their States.


156 posted on 09/07/2010 11:01:55 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: fortheDeclaration; Monorprise
The 'states' didn't become 'states' until they, as members of the congressional congress,declared independence as the united states of America. Before that, they were simply 'united colonies'.

No sir, they fought and earned the right to be free, sovereign and independent States. Nothing singular about it.

His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign and independent States; and he treats with them as such, and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, proprietory and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof.

181 posted on 09/08/2010 4:00:53 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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