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To: fortheDeclaration; Monorprise
The 'states' didn't become 'states' until they, as members of the congressional congress,declared independence as the united states of America. Before that, they were simply 'united colonies'.

No sir, they fought and earned the right to be free, sovereign and independent States. Nothing singular about it.

His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign and independent States; and he treats with them as such, and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, proprietory and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof.

181 posted on 09/08/2010 4:00:53 AM PDT by Idabilly ("When injustice becomes law....Resistance becomes DUTY !")
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To: Idabilly

Just to be clear that was something I was quoting and disputing too Idabilly.

fortheDeclaration is the Idiot who said that.


182 posted on 09/08/2010 4:08:15 AM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Idabilly
His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign and independent States; and he treats with them as such, and for himself, his heirs and successors, relinquishes all claims to the Government, proprietory and territorial rights of the same, and every part thereof.

Are you claiming that the Treaty of Paris was between Great Britain on the one hand and New Hampshire, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Maryland, etc., etc. individually on the other? If so, then who was the Virginia representative that signed on behalf of that state? Who was the representative from Georgia? Or South Carolina?

183 posted on 09/08/2010 4:08:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Idabilly
His Britannic Majesty acknowledges the said United States, viz. New Hampshire, Massachusetts Bay, Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations, Connecticut, New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Delaware, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Georgia, to be free, sovereign and independent States;

King George III knew more about the republic then than some of our contemporary Lincoln Lovin' Yankee FRiends do now. This should embarrass the neo-Yankee. But I have found nothing embarrasses them, even the legacy of Sherman raping burning and pillaging. The republic is toast.

197 posted on 09/08/2010 5:02:53 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Idabilly
Those states were created by the Congress.

And in the Articles of Confederation, they gave up all rights to act as independent nations-forever.

215 posted on 09/08/2010 5:27:13 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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