[trebb]

Wow, you must have been a crappy counselor - telling them to rely on the same person who got them into the mess (themselves). Are you by any chance agnostic or atheist?

Do you understand that A.A. has a better track record for long-term sobriety than any other option out there?

I guess you'd rather folks surrender to the singular will of yourself than to a God with all power. You obviously committed a cardinal sin for a "counselor"; you have no idea of what the other programs are really doing.

[Tennessee Nana]

telling them to rely on the same person who got them into the mess (themselves).
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Thats not what Ron said...

go back and read his comments again...