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To: ClearCase_guy
Your scenario involves poor strategy and unrealistic assumptions.

First, there will be disputes in "local areas" about whether or not federal laws should be ignored. There will be plenty of tweeners who will want freedom but also benefits. And the main issue will be the payment of taxes. The government cannot be expected to ignore nonpayment. And those who depend on the government for their living will not take kindly to neighbors whom they perceive as trying to destroy them.

You speak of the "Will of the People" when the whole point is that this collective will is not unitary or unanimous. The government will go after nonpayers on the grounds that they are defying the law of the land and the popular will.

The government has full, legitimate authority to enforce tax collection and it will make examples of those who break the law. Moreover, it's more than happy to leave people alone who pay all their taxes but reject all benefits - that means more funds to allocate for fewer people.

54 posted on 08/17/2010 6:01:04 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

The British government certainly believed they had that right in 1775 - we saw how that ended.


56 posted on 08/17/2010 6:11:13 AM PDT by Ronbo1948
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To: wideawake
You and I see things differently.

The government has full, legitimate authority to enforce tax collection and it will make examples of those who break the law.

If 51% of the population receives money from the government, but does not pay money to the government, then 51% of the population may decide that your tax rate is 80%.

Would you work so that 80% of the money you earn can be given to those who do not work? Many would not. So, more people stay at home, receive government benefits and depend on the suckers who work. Slowly, we spiral into a third world country. Lack of food. Lack of clean water. Lack of access to medical supplies. Sewer system breakdown. Hey, there's no money for any of that stuff -- nobody works any more!

Now, according to your principles, at no point in that descent is it right for anyone to say "I refuse". And if any indivdual were to say "I refuse", it sounds like you would recognize the government right to come in and squash that person like a bug. It's taxes. Pay up. I'm from the government. Who are you to defy me?

Like I say, you and I see things differently.

57 posted on 08/17/2010 6:12:47 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: wideawake
The government will go after nonpayers on the grounds that they are defying the law of the land and the popular will.

The government does not care about millions of illegals entering the country during war time. They've proved this.

The government has full, legitimate authority to enforce tax collection and it will make examples of those who break the law.

You can say the exact same thing about our lawless, violent borders as people enter by the millions illegally during war time.

Why does the government not enforce or secure our borders yet it has no problem taking money from legitimate law abiding documented citizens?

67 posted on 08/17/2010 5:03:58 PM PDT by dragnet2
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