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To: egannacht; bolobaby; Impy
>> The 17th Amendment to the US Constitution allowed for direct election by the voters of their senators. Never mind that the Founding Fathers foresaw that was a bad idea <<

The founding fathers also "foresaw" that the direct election of the Vice President on the ticket was a "mistake", so they established in the "original constitution" of 1789 that the runner up in the presidential election would become veep. That would have made John McCain our current Vice President, Al Gore as Bush's veep, and so on. The 11th amendment then changed this and went against the wishes of "The founders" who envisioned the veep role as a president-in-training who had already run for the job and gotten the second highest number of votes. Why isn't the "abolish the 17th amendment" crowd also DEMANDING the abolition of the 11th amendment if they're soooo concerned about what "the founders" wrote down in 1789? Could it be that they, too, pick and choose which parts of "the founders" Constitution want to keep intact?

>> - onward in our rush toward democracy! (something else the Founders knew to be a mistake) <<

The founders of what nation? Fidel Castro's Cuba, perhaps. They certainly don't have democratic elections there since "the founders" took over in 1959 revolution. Power doesn't derive from the just consent of the governed, it derives from Fidel Castro and the Communist Party. Fidel doesn't allow democracy, so the people of Cuba have no say in who represents them in government. All members of the Cuban Parliament are selected for the job by the Communist Party, and run unopposed. So if the idea of being able to choose your own representation in government offends you, Fidel's island paradise is your kinda nation... a Republic without any form of democracy. Here in the United States we have a democratic representative Republic where the ultimate authority is we the PEOPLE, whether direct or indirect.

>> Not only does direct election of senators lead those senators to compete in confiscating and redistributing wealth in order to buy votes <<

... but it pales in comparison to the state legislature appointment of Senators leading those senators to to compete in confiscating and redistributing wealth in order to buy votes.

>> but there's also the distinct possibility that, (Hm, how can I put this delicately?) if a significant portion of the electorate in your state is lazy, ignorant, or mentally deficient (or all the above) they might actually vote for someone like Alvin Greene. When the mob votes, you get candidates that are just like them. South Carolina - you have serious issues. If you, like many of my friends, live in South Carolina, I hope you homeschool your kids. It's clear that the state is doing a lousy job of turning out responsible citizens. <<

The author of this piece seems to have confused the primary election with the general. The voters of "South Carolina" didn't do a "lousy job" and elect Alvin Greene as their Senator, the DEMOCRAT primary voters of the criminal party of treason NOMINATED him as THEIR candidate. He is overwhemingly expected to LOSE the general election and NOT become a Senator when ALL the people of South Carolina get to have their say. And remind me again why the author has a problem with that? If he's offended that the socialist RAT runs criminals, then his beef is with the socialist RAT party voters and their nomination process, not the 17th amendment. No wonder this guy wants to abolish it when he flunked How Elections Work 101.

The 17th amendment actually ensures guys like Alvin Greene will NOT become Senators, whereas abolishing the 17th amendment ensures people like Martha Coakley WOULD become Senators instead of decent people like Scott Brown.

>> So how does an unemployed, inarticulate, potential criminal who ran no campaign, displays no mental acuity, and must periocially be poked with a stick in order to ensure he's still alive win a primary election? <<

The same way an an unemployed, inarticulate, potential criminal who ran no campaign, displays no mental acuity, and must periocially be poked with a stick in order to ensure he's still alive Roland Burris got to become Senator when we left it up to crooked state officials instead of the voters to pick Illinois' current U.S. Senator. The RAT party loves sending scumbags to the Senate. If you abolish the 17th amendment, they can increase their number of Senators tenfold. Perhaps you might to rethink the prospect of giving them any more power. <<>

11 posted on 06/14/2010 6:11:13 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: BillyBoy

Yeah! What BillBoy said!

;-)


15 posted on 06/15/2010 8:26:12 AM PDT by bolobaby
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To: BillyBoy

Your reading my thoughts on the matter. Thank you. Well done.


17 posted on 06/16/2010 9:12:53 AM PDT by egannacht (Inalienable rights granted by...)
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