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Is Alvin Greene a Republican plant?
The Week ^ | June 11, 2010

Posted on 06/11/2010 3:28:54 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Congressman James Clyburn thinks that Greene, the unlikely victor in a South Carolina Democrat primary, was paid to run for office. Could it be true?

The incredulity over Alvin Greene's surprise win in the Democrat primary for South Carolina's Senate seat shows no sign of abating. House Majority Whip James Clyburn (D—SC) openly accused the unprepossessing 32-year-old, who won without holding a single campaign event, of being a political pawn: "There were some real shenanigans going on," Clyburn told a radio talk show. "I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant." Greene has denied this, saying his victory was due to "word of mouth." Could there be any truth to Clyburn's allegations? (Watch Keith Olbermann drill Alvin Greene about his past)

This is a set-up engineered by those good ol' SC boys: Greene's victory means "only one thing," says Devona Walker at AlterNet. "Someone rigged the Democratic primaries down in Dixieland." The "good old boys" in South Carolina proved they were willing to stoop to dirty tricks with the ugly Nikki Haley affair. "I'm just wondering how long it will take for Greene to crack under the pressure."

"The curious case of Alvin Greene"

Why would anyone run a plant against sure-thing Jim DeMint? The idea of the "plain-spoken" Greene being a plant raises more questions than answers, says Allahpundit at Hot Air. For one, Republican Jim DeMint is a "mortal lock to be re-elected" in South Carolina, so why would you "risk all the bad publicity and possible criminal repercussions" of rigging the election?

"Another trainwreck: Olbermann interviews 'America's candidate'"

Wouldn't you choose a more convincing plant? Even if you did want to run a plant against DeMint, says Jim Geraghty at the National Review, would you really "entrust Alvin Greene" — accused of a felony and hardly media friendly — to pull off a "grand conspiracy"? For that matter, "would you trust Alvin Greene to water your plants while you're away?"

"It's not easy being Greene, but apparently he wins easily"

We're inventing conspiracies to explain his behavior: Judging from his extraordinarily vague interviews with the media, says Adrian Chen at Gawker, "there seems to be literally nothing to Alvin Greene." Maybe we're trying to fill in that well of "nothingness" with "our own conspiracy theories," when the only truth behind Greene's candidacy is he's "just some random dude" who accidentally won a Democrat primary.

"Mystery SC candidate's bizarre Keith Olbermann interview"


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: alvingreene; democrats; greene; keitholbermann; sc; southcarolina
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To: ilgipper

No matter what the underlying cause, this has got to be the funniest thing to happen this election year. Comedy gold.


21 posted on 06/11/2010 3:37:24 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("It's not the number of burnt cars that worries me. It's the fact that everyone finds this normal..")
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To: katana
Plant, animal, or mineral, he won the election.

Indeed. From I've seen today in his interviews, the personality of a plant, has mobility like an animal, and the intellectual capacity of a mineral. (or average democrat)
22 posted on 06/11/2010 3:37:28 PM PDT by ZX12R (IMPEACH OBAMA NOW!)
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To: skeeter

You’re right, the GOP should immediately refute the Clyburn assertions rather than let him have the last word on it at the end of this weeks news cycle grrr.


23 posted on 06/11/2010 3:37:37 PM PDT by Teflonic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wish the GOP was this clever, can you imagine the possibilities?


24 posted on 06/11/2010 3:38:05 PM PDT by Tarpon (Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Republicans are simply not that politically clever.


25 posted on 06/11/2010 3:39:05 PM PDT by FormerACLUmember ("Subtlety is not going to win this fight": NJ Governor Chris Christie)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For this to be true, you have to believe that Republicans didn’t vote in their own primary but opted instead to vote in the democrat primary.


26 posted on 06/11/2010 3:39:37 PM PDT by GAGOP
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plants don’t win 59-41. They also tend not to perform well when the other party has a hotly contested primary.


27 posted on 06/11/2010 3:40:37 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: KarlInOhio
"The same GOP that would have trouble organizing a two car funeral can pull of this type of electoral hijinks? HA!"

The GOP don't have a single Machiavellian neuron among them.

28 posted on 06/11/2010 3:41:20 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Wouldn’t you choose a more convincing plant? Even if you did want to run a plant against DeMint, says Jim Geraghty at the National Review, would you really ‘entrust Alvin Greene’ — accused of a felony and hardly media friendly — to pull off a ‘grand conspiracy’?”

Reminds me of the Lee Harvey Oswald/Jack Ruby situation. If you were going to have people shoot both the president and the person who shot the president, these two boobs would be the absolute last ones you’d choose. Yet, somehow, their very boobishness suggests conspiracy to some. Just like this candidates boobishness suggests “plant” to angry Democrats. Suggests the opposite to me.

Plus, since when was winning a primary via subterfuge as easy as throwing a name in the hat? How could Republicans been convinced of a victory even if they had chosen someone competent. Or someone who actually, you know, campaigns.


29 posted on 06/11/2010 3:41:29 PM PDT by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

30 posted on 06/11/2010 3:41:36 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"I don't know if he was a Republican plant; he was someone's plant."

This I do believe. Somebody or some organization is behind this, pulling the strings. And, honestly, I think it's hilarious because the votes Greene received were legitimate!

31 posted on 06/11/2010 3:45:22 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; skeeter; FlingWingFlyer; dead; DesertRenegade

He must be a plant or the result of poor vetting by the Democrats. True Democrat politicians are undetectable felons.


32 posted on 06/11/2010 3:45:23 PM PDT by Retain Mike
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To: katana

My theory is he was a Democrat plant/pawn. He had no idea he was going to win and does not know how he won. They paid for him to run then rigged the ballot boxes to test to see exactly how to handle the media and deflect an investigation into the voter fraud. This was a practice test for the big fix in November.

This is the only thing that really makes sense to me.

The idea that primary voters (even dems) went to the polls then just spontaneously decided to vote for someone they did not even know is simply not plausible to me.


33 posted on 06/11/2010 3:45:45 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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To: Retain Mike

I don’t think the DNC knows where South Carolina is. Probably somewhere south of North Carolina.


34 posted on 06/11/2010 3:46:54 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer ("Bush made me do it!" - Barack Hussein Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Paid by a Dem to create a scandal that they could put out to the media as the GOP’s dirty tricks. Perhaps.
35 posted on 06/11/2010 3:46:54 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country! What else needs said?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t think Greene is an ideal senate candidate, but I think the reaction to his winning the primary exposes sort of an elitist attitude regarding who gets to run. He won the primary and now they want him to leave — forget what the voters say, they must be stupid or wrong. Maybe they are, but maybe they are just Democrats.

To be honest, I’m seeing a similar problem in the House race for the NY-29 seat. There are three republican candidates and at least one of them is just an average guy and he’s going through the deep hot place and back just to get on the ballot for our primary in September. The establishment candidate is a phony baloney mascarading as a conservative, and I do not want him but the party is foisting him on us. When it comes down to it, they do not care what we want and aren’t even willing to give us a choice. To me that is just wrong.


36 posted on 06/11/2010 3:47:00 PM PDT by dajeeps
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To: Drew68

Seems to me that the democrats should have worried about whether he was a plant before the primary rather than after.

Its also possible that they were just fine with him till the pending felony charges came up.

Either way they look like real idiots.


37 posted on 06/11/2010 3:50:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: precisionshootist
Plausible or not, that seems to be exactly what they did. However, South Carolinians can always look to Minnesota for proof that they are not in fact the least intelligent of American voters. I give you the Junior Senator:


38 posted on 06/11/2010 3:51:16 PM PDT by katana (For what is an Irishman ? But a .......)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sitting here in my home in Greer, SC...laughing my butt off about this! This is hysterically funny. Yet still, the big question...just who is Alvin Greene? LOL! Way too funny!


39 posted on 06/11/2010 3:54:48 PM PDT by nfldgirl (Tim Tebow=our real life (Francine Rivers' Redeeming Love...) Michael!)
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To: katana

Anyone know if this election was conducted with normal electronic voting machines?

If someone or some group wanted to fix an election or group of elections by rigging electronic machines, would it not be wise to test the system in an inconsequential primary?


40 posted on 06/11/2010 3:56:53 PM PDT by precisionshootist
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