i heard that...
Posted on 06/10/2010 8:12:03 PM PDT by george76
In a 1997 Middle East Quarterly article titled "Prince Charles of Arabia," Ronni L. Gordon and David M. Stillman looked at evidence that Britain's Prince Charles might be a secret convert to Islam.
They shifted through his public statements (defending Islamic law, praising the status of Muslim women, seeing in Islam a solution for Britain's ailments) and actions (setting up a panel of twelve "wise men" to advise him on Islamic religion and culture), then concluded that, "should Charles persist in his admiration of Islam and defamation of his own culture," his accession to the throne will indeed usher in a "different kind of monarchy."
June 10, 2010 update: Charles says ...
" The inconvenient truth is that we share this planet with the rest of creation for a very good reason - and that is, we cannot exist on our own without the intricately balanced web of life around us. Islam has always taught this and to ignore that lesson is to default on our contract with creation. "
(Excerpt) Read more at danielpipes.org ...
i heard that...
The vast majority of British Muslim's do not support terrorism. They despise it. Worldwide, I think the pattern is quite a bit different.
Prince Charles many years ago converted to The Cult of Camilla, his wish to became a Tampon to be inserted into said orifice of the Goddess Camilla to be able to be close to her for Eternity.
This alone should make him ineligible to King.
And he does a great deal to be energy efficient. Some of which is public. Some of which is not.
I won't discuss what I know of his travel arrangements as there are security implications, except for those things that are already public knowledge.
That is that the Prince does fly on normal commercial jets with British Airways whenever possible. Because he is an assassination risk (and therefore his presence on the plane could endanger other passengers - and that's no joke, I've stood within metres of him as somebody ran at him firing a pistol - fortunately it turned out to be a starting pistol) this is only done in cases where it can be done without it being known in advance that he will be on the aircraft - if he's travelling to a major overseas event it generally isn't possible. The only member of the Royal Family who never flies commercially is the Queen. Everybody else does so wherever it is feasible and possible for them to do so. That's public knowledge, but it's not given a great deal of publicity for security reasons. The Prince has expressed a desire to fly economy class, but this was vetoed by his security - it's more expensive and complicated to background check an entire economy class cabin, and his security staff are entitled to travel business class under their terms of employment with the Metropolitan Police.
He does walk to work in most cases (it would often be ridiculous to do otherwise, as his office is in the same building he lives in, but he also walks further afield wherever possible), but again for security reasons and reasons of time (he generally undertakes a number of public engagements every day, and the time to travel between them makes anything other than vehicular transport impossible) he does often travel by car. His main personal vehicle is a 40 year old Aston Martin that he paid to have converted a few years ago to run on biofuel. The cars he uses for official duties are armoured for security purposes and it is currently impractical to produce an energy efficient armoured vehicle, but he has directed quite a lot of money towards research to change that.
These are all facts - but they are not facts the media will normally tell you.
“I’m sure he’s aware of those quotes.”
You can’t tell by his public behavior.
“Because he is an assassination risk”
Who would wish to kill Charles? The IRA killed his great uncle Louis Mountbatten, but they are no longer waging that war. The Muslims love him, and the Israelis don’t hate him. Of course all celebrities are at some risk, but Queen Sofia of Spain flys super-economy, and doesn’t seem to worry about the Basque separatists, who unlike the IRA are still active.
“his security staff are entitled to travel business class under their terms of employment with the Metropolitan Police.”
Charles is a very wealthy and influential man, and can hire his own security on his own terms. If he was a real conservative and “environmentalist” he wouldn’t agree to burdening British taxpayers with such lavish perks.
Please tell Charles that if you cannot walk the walk you should not talk the talk.
His mom enjoys her own great wealth, which is fine. The difference is the Queen doesn’t try to tell everyone else how to live their life. She just gets on with her own.
The main current threat to the Prince of Wales is a random nutcase. The same type of random nutcases that shot President Reagan, tried to shoot President Ford twice, and who, if you accept the official version, shot and killed President Kennedy. Most assassins aren't political - they are insane and target famous people. It doesn't make them significantly less dangerous.
As I've said, I've stood within metres of the man as someone ran towards him firing a pistol. That particular person did have a political agenda - he was trying to raise awareness of the plight of Cambodian boat people. He wasn't a genuine assassin, the only person he expected to die was himself, but it indicates the wide range of political issues that might inspire a person to these types of actions. It's not always the obvious ones.
Charles is a very wealthy and influential man, and can hire his own security on his own terms. If he was a real conservative and “environmentalist” he wouldn’t agree to burdening British taxpayers with such lavish perks.
Could he afford his own security staff? Sure. Why should he? The primary reason he is in any danger is because of the duties he undertakes on behalf of Britain and the Commonwealth. And under British law, he's required to accept S014 security - he doesn't actually get a choice. Understand that if anything happens to his mother, he is King instantly until he abdicates or dies - a position that would make him Commander-In-Chief of all British forces. He could, legally, order the British Army to surrender, or to invade France (Constitutional convention means he wouldn't, but the power is real). More realistically, he is in possession of a great deal of intelligence information, that could have serious consequences if it fell into the wrong hands. He is protected for good reason.
His mom enjoys her own great wealth, which is fine. The difference is the Queen doesn’t try to tell everyone else how to live their life. She just gets on with her own.
You haven't listened to many of the Queen's speeches have you?
Of course, the media adores her and doesn't try to paint her as a fool.
Believe what you want to believe. No - sorry. Believe what the media is telling you to believe.
“No section of the community has all the virtues, neither does any have all the vices. I am quite sure that most people try to do their jobs as best they can, even if the result is not always entirely successful. He who has never failed to reach perfection has a right to be the harshest critic.”
“There can be no doubt, of course, that criticism is good for people and institutions that are part of public life. No institution - City, Monarchy, whatever - should expect to be free from the scrutiny of those who give it their loyalty and support, not to mention those who don’t.”
“But we are all part of the same fabric of our national society and that scrutiny, by one part of another, can be just as effective if it is made with a touch of gentleness, good humour and understanding.”
Queen Elizabeth II, 24 November 1992
Sep. 4, 2005 update: Prince Charles revealed in a letter leaked to the Daily Telegraph that he had strained relations with George Carey, then archbishop of Canterbury, over his attitude toward Islam. Particularly contentious was his expressed intent, on becoming king and supreme governor of the Church of England, to ditch the centuries' old defender of the faith title and replace it with defender of faith and defender of the Divine. The letter reveals the archbishop's reaction.I wish you'd been there for the archbishop! Didn't really appreciate what I was getting at by talking about "the Divine" and felt that I had said far more about Islam than I did about Christianity - and was therefore worried about my development as a Christian.
According to royal aides, Charles did not much respect Lord Carey's views and the feelings were reciprocated.
Charles has always been a wimp. I believe that’s why the Queen will remain in power until either William can take over or until she dies.
The thought of a ‘King’ of England embracing Islam is frightening.
27th August 1979. The IRA blew up a fishing boat to kill Lord Louis Mountbatten. They also killed a 14 year old boy, a 15 year old boy and an 83 year old woman. Three other people (including another child) were seriously injured.
Lord Mountbatten - a decorated war hero (he served as a Midshipman in the First World War and as an Admiral in the Second World War) was Prince Charles' mentor, his Godfather, and also his Great-Uncle.
I don't classify terrorists according to their religion. They are mass murdering scum whatever their claimed motivation is.
And I know what time period I'm living in. Are you aware that the IRA detonated their most recent bomb on the 12th of April this year. They bombed a British Army base in Belfast. That's two months ago. A little over a year ago - March 7th 2009 - they attacked a British Army base and shot to death two British soldiers, as well as wounding two other soldiers and two civilians. Last year they also seriously wounded three police officers and killed one. They haven't, as one person here has claimed, abandoned their cause. Irish Catholic terrorists are still active. That is current reality.
Most British Muslims (I'm not talking about Muslims around the world which is a different matter) are not terrorists. Most of them despise terrorism. The Prince was talking to moderate, well educated, Muslim students. He wasn't talking to those who support terrorism. He wasn't promoting Islam either - he was encouraging people who are already Muslim's to direct their faith towards something he considers to be a social good, rather than towards social evils.
This was a speech to Muslim's specifically. It was not intended to promote Islam. That is yet another media misrepresentation.
Charles has way too few jeans in the brain pool. All that royal in-breading has cost him dearly.
Ireland was pretty unhappy about Britian, huh? Can’t imagine why.
Ping
Um, the queen has been dead.
Check the date of this thread.
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