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(Here is the direct scribd link)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/32298513/Republic-of-Kenya-Ministry-of-State-for-Immigration-and-Registration-of-Persons-Nyayo-House-2006

BEGIN QUOTE of Lucas Smith's entire comments:

Here's some information regarding births in Kenya prior to 1964. This information comes from the Kenyan Government in 2006.

"Identification in Kenya is traced from 1915 when the British colonial government passed the Native Registration Ordinance in which, it was mandatory for all adult male Africans to register and carry identification papers. The Registration of Persons Ordinance Cap 50 of 1947 made mandatory for all male persons of 16 years and above to register."

"This Ordinance became the Registration of Persons Act Cap 107 of the Laws of Kenya in 1963. This Act was amended in 1978 to provide for the registration of both male and female and create the Department of National Registration Bureau. An amendment of the Act in 1980 changed the registration age to eighteen (18) years."

"Civil Registration Services"

"Registration of births and deaths was introduced for the first time in Kenya in 1904 and applied only to Europeans and Americans."

"In 1928 the current Act CAP. 149 was enacted. This Act only provided for the compulsory registration of the deaths of Africans but not for their births."

"After independence in 1963 compulsory registration of all births and deaths was extended in phases to other areas beginning with Nairobi and Nyeri on 1st March 1963. On 1st September 1971 it became compulsory to register all births and deaths occurring in Kenya."

You can find all of that data in a PDF at:

http://www.mirp.go.ke/Service_Charter.pdf

I encourage everyone to download a copy of it now while you still can.

Strangely enough, I, Lucas Smith, was not the one that found this information. GreatKim aka Mik Tearg found it back on April 28th, 2010. In one of her / his feigned acts of an attempt to be objective and open mined she / he sent the link to this PDF from the Kenyan Government.

As we can see from this information, registration of African births in Kenya was not obligatory or compulsive until September of the year 1971.

Registration of births in Kenya was introduced in 1904 but only applied to Americans and Europeans.

As we can all see now, a HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR BIRTH RECORD WOULD BE ALL THAT A KENYAN BORN IN MOMBASA WOULD HAVE ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL the year 1971.

There is, however, an interesting twist in that while President Barack Obama's father was an African........his (President Barack Obama's) mother was an American.......so......which law was used???

African born in Kenya law??? Or American / European born in Kenya law???

If the African birth law was used then all that there would have ever been is a HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR HOSPITAL RECORD (at least up until 1971, and maybe not even then, I doubt the law was applied retroactively).

If the American / European birth was used then we would have TWO records. A hospital birth certificate and a Protectorate / Colony of Kenya birth registration / birth certificate.

I have also just tonight added this document to my scribd.com account (Patriot1980).

http://www.scribd.com/Patriot1980

"Republic of Kenya. Ministry of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons. Nyayo House. 2006"

END QUOTE from Lucas Smith

BEGIN QUOTE from bsteadman1, commmenter

bsteadman1 (5 days ago) [1 of 2] LUCAS - CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR VERY SIGNIFICANT INDEPENDENT RESEARCH AND SUBSEQUENT ADDITION OF PERTINENT INFORMATION TO THE KENYAN BC RELATED DATA BASE FOR BHO!

The information you obtained from the referenced document "Republic of Kenya. Ministry of State for Immigration and Registration of Persons. Nyayo House. 2006 Service Charter" is HUGE.

One point jumped out immediately to me and it relates to a statement made in the same article by "Dr. Conspiracy" we both referenced earlier. ("Lucas Smith certificate makes African genesis less plausible", May 30, 2010, Obama Conspiracy Theories, obamaconspiracy-dot-org)

In the article, Dr. Conspiracy states, "The Smith certificate nails down the name "Barack Hussein Obama II." Birth indexes in Kenya are open records. Lucas Smith claims to have traveled to Kenya and anti-Obama author Jerome Corsi certainly did. NO ONE REPORTS A BARACK OBAMA LISTED ON THE BIRTH INDEX" (caps emphasis added)

bsteadman1 (5 days ago) [2 of 2] However, it appears to me that this statement by Dr. Conspiracy is totally negated by your 2006 Kenyan Government Document Backed statement that, "... a HOSPITAL BIRTH CERTIFICATE OR BIRTH RECORD WOULD BE ALL THAT A KENYAN BORN IN MOMBASA WOULD HAVE ALL THE WAY UP UNTIL the year 1971."

It seems intuitively likely to me that, during those volatile times just prior the establishment of Kenyan independence, that African-Born-in-Kenya law would be chosen over European-Born-in-Kenya law.

My conclusion is that OBAMA WAS BORN IN MOMBASA IN 1961 TO A KENYAN FATHER AND HIS BIRTH WAS TREATED BUREAUCRATICALLY UNDER THE AFRICAN-BORN-IN-KENYA LAW IN EFFECT AT THE TIME. THEREFORE, HIS SON, BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II, DOES NOT APPEAR ON THE KENYAN BIRTH INDEX.

END QUOTE from bsteadman1

1 posted on 06/07/2010 8:48:28 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

America was hood-winked by the DNC and those that
lied in the MSM to the American public.


2 posted on 06/07/2010 8:53:04 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Article IV - Section 4 - The United States Â… shall protect each of them against Invasion)
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To: InspectorSmith; LucyT; STARWISE; ASA Vet; rxsid; BP2; Red Steel; El Gato; WhizCodger
ping to Kenya Birth Index/registration research by Lucas Smith

If born in Kenya, would BHO II have been registered by the state as the child of an American (required under colonial law) or not registered by the state (not required for children of Kenyan natives)?

BHO II reportedly does not show up in the Kenya state birth index which would have been required for Europeans and Americans only. This would be consistent with Smith's CPMG BC, a non-state hospital BC, if BHO II was considered to be the child of a Kenyan native and not the child of an American.

3 posted on 06/07/2010 8:58:17 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp
0bamas’ hidden records: Why are these off limits?

1 Certified copy of original birth certificate
2 Columbia University transcripts
3 Columbia thesis paper
4 Campaign donor analysis requested by 7 major watchdog groups
5 Harvard University transcripts
6 Illinois State Senate records
7 Illinois State Senate schedule
8 Law practice client list and billing records/summary
9 Locations and names of all half-siblings and step-mother
10 Medical records (only the one page summary released so far)
11 Occidental College Transcripts
12 Parent’s marriage Certificate
13 Record of baptism
14 Selective Service registration records
(Did Obama Actually Register for Selective Service?
This supposed revelation of 0's SS records has been debunked here and here.)
15 Schedules for trips outside of the United States before 2007
16 Passport records for all passports
17 Scholarly articles
18 SAT and LSAT test scores
19 Access to his grandmother in Kenya
20 List of all campaign workers that are lobbyists
21 Punahou grade school records
22 Noelani Kindergarten records are oddly missing from the the State of Hawaii Department of Education.
23 Page 11 of Stanley Ann Dunham's divorce decree.
24 Why isn't Barack Obama still a member of the Illinois bar and where are all of the relevant documents?
25 Why isn't Michelle Obama still a member of the Illinois bar, after only about four years of practice, and where are all of the relevant documents?

Anyone who cares about their country would be very concerned that a POTUS had hidden every scrap of information of his life that he possibly could.

4 posted on 06/07/2010 9:07:46 AM PDT by TigersEye ("Flotilla" means "pirate ships running supplies to terrorists.")
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To: Seizethecarp

IMHO...his father was American(his purported grandfather-Stanley Armour Dunham)...and his mother Kenyan...and he may be listed under her name....


6 posted on 06/07/2010 10:05:44 AM PDT by mo
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; Red Steel; BP2; null and void; wintertime; El Gato

Very, very interesting.

Pinging a few names FYI.


7 posted on 06/07/2010 10:08:25 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: Seizethecarp; InspectorSmith
From the quote you included from bsteadman1 –

“It seems intuitively likely to me that, during those volatile times just prior the establishment of Kenyan independence, that African-Born-in-Kenya law would be chosen over European-Born-in-Kenya law.”

The following is a minor point and it is obviously strictly a conjecture on my part.

Back in 1961, I think Kenyan BUREAUCRATS, either at the hospital or province level, probably would have had the greatest influence in determining which law (African-Born-In-Kenya or American/European-Born-In-Kenya) would be followed in the case of BHO’s birth to a Kenyan father and American mother at CPGH in Mombasa.

However, IF either of the parents had any say whatsoever in the matter, I think it likely that BOTH the father and the mother would have chosen to have the birth treated under the African-Born-In-Kenya law.

The FATHER would have been proud to have his son, and newest member of the Luo tribe, considered African. The MOTHER would have wanted the simplest and least conspicuous record possible for her son and that would be for him to be considered African. After all, she was planning on phoning her mom in Hawaii as soon as possible to get little BHO set up with an easily-obtainable Hawaiian BC, with all the perks afforded American citizens.

9 posted on 06/07/2010 12:17:36 PM PDT by WhizCodger (Katie - Bar the door, then text my reply of "F U" to the NWO!)
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To: Seizethecarp

How can we contact Lucas or send him a message ? If he is in Kenya, I can’t understand why he doesn’t pursue finding the doctor on the birth cert’s daughter ! She is now a JUDGE in Kenya ! As far as I know, she may be a Christian also....What better avenue for exploiting the truth ? If we can get a statement from her, that would be invaluable !
Thx.


34 posted on 06/07/2010 9:11:49 PM PDT by rocco55
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To: Seizethecarp

The fact that Smith is wasting his (and everyone else’s) time trying to prove arcane Kenyan matters of birth records and hospitals tells me that the Smith bc is a phony .

Ask yourself this . If you had gone to Kenya ,gone to a hospital, paid off someone to get a bc of Obama and gotten it out of the country would you waste your time on line trying to prove this kind of thing ?

Had I had that experience I would be so certain of the document that I would have no need to google or explain anything pertaining to its veracity.

The truth is this : Smith is at best a liar . He never went to Kenya and he either cooked up this document or got it from someone who did.

This part of the Obama birth story is DEAD . It died with most people when they realized what Smith has done in the past. Smith has a only a handful of adherents left...he is trying to keep this stuff alive ....its not working

Its dead Zed


116 posted on 06/08/2010 1:11:29 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Seizethecarp

Straight up.

If Obama KNOWS he was born in Kenya, then he KNOWS he is not a “natural born citizen”.

And that would be treason.


135 posted on 06/09/2010 2:49:03 AM PDT by djf
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