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Prominent Scientist Dr. Happer Testifies to Congress: 'Warming and increased CO2 will be good...
Climate Depot ^ | Friday, May 21, 2010 | Marc Morano

Posted on 05/22/2010 8:32:15 AM PDT by Delacon

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To: Delacon
I am “potentially” a threat to civil society because I am conservative?

Exactly so, just like the global warming "deniers" are analogous to Holocaust deniers...sigh.
41 posted on 05/22/2010 1:02:25 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"The extra hat makes you a little bit warmer but to really get warm, you need to add a jacket. The IPCC thinks that this jacket is water vapor and clouds. "

So, greenhouse [effect] is all about carbon dioxide, right?

Wrong. The most important players on the greenhouse stage are water vapor and clouds [clouds of course aren't gas, but high level ones do act to trap heat from escaping, while low-lying cumulus clouds tend to reflect sunlight and thereby help cool the planet -etl]. Carbon dioxide has been increased to about 0.038% of the atmosphere (possibly from about 0.028% pre-Industrial Revolution) while water in its various forms ranges from 0% to 4% of the atmosphere and its properties vary by what form it is in and even at what altitude it is found in the atmosphere.

In simple terms the bulk of Earth's greenhouse effect is due to water vapor by virtue of its abundance. Water accounts for about 90% of the Earth's greenhouse effect -- perhaps 70% is due to water vapor and about 20% due to clouds (mostly water droplets), some estimates put water as high as 95% of Earth's total tropospheric greenhouse effect (e.g., Freidenreich and Ramaswamy, 'Solar Radiation Absorption by Carbon Dioxide, Overlap with Water, and a Parameterization for General Circulation Models,' Journal of Geophysical Research 98 (1993):7255-7264).

The remaining portion comes from carbon dioxide, nitrous oxide, methane, ozone and miscellaneous other 'minor greenhouse gases.' As an example of the relative importance of water it should be noted that changes in the relative humidity on the order of 1.3-4% are equivalent to the effect of doubling CO2.

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/
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Water Vapor Rules the Greenhouse System

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many 'facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activities contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.

http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/greenhouse_data.html
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Water Vapor Confirmed As Major Player In Climate Change

ScienceDaily (Nov. 18, 2008) — Water vapor is known to be Earth's most abundant greenhouse gas, but the extent of its contribution to global warming has been debated. Using recent NASA satellite data, researchers have estimated more precisely than ever the heat-trapping effect of water in the air, validating the role of the gas as a critical component of climate change.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117193013.htm

42 posted on 05/22/2010 1:15:13 PM PDT by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Delacon; cogitator
Sure. Don't forget to thank cog for his contributions on that thread ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2196437/posts) without which mine would not have been possible!

Looks like Happer is a little more circumspect this year, or at least not trying to give a complete laundry list of why CAGW is wrong. The dups from last year, CO2 saturation, hockey stick, sea level haven't changed much on either side except for hockey stick. We now know that the decline of proxies below MWP levels

was "hidden" using a "trick"

Who would have ever guessed?

43 posted on 05/22/2010 4:09:12 PM PDT by palmer (Cooperating with Obama = helping him extend the depression and implement socialism.)
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To: Nepeta

Technically, I suppose you are right, as in impurities in an natural resource, but the way it is presented in the ad, is as a negative, i.e. something to be gotten rid of to prevent global warming. It is a total falsehood.


44 posted on 05/22/2010 6:34:53 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Lots of great links as usual. Thanks for the ping.


45 posted on 05/22/2010 6:45:21 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned....)
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To: Delacon; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Defendingliberty; WL-law; Normandy; TenthAmendmentChampion; FrPR; ...
Thanx !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

46 posted on 05/22/2010 7:33:07 PM PDT by steelyourfaith (America should take a mulligan on the 2008 presidential election.)
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To: Delacon
It is, at its base, a governmental power grab. If the government can control the energy supplies then they can control everything.

I am convinced that this is exactly what is behind it. It's a big government, socialist power grab.

47 posted on 05/22/2010 8:11:16 PM PDT by Rocky (REPEAL IT!)
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To: Sudetenland
Technically, I suppose you are right, as in impurities in an natural resource, but the way it is presented in the ad, is as a negative, i.e. something to be gotten rid of to prevent global warming. It is a total falsehood.

Scientific ignorance allows people like Gore to have credibility...sigh.
48 posted on 05/22/2010 8:32:22 PM PDT by Nepeta
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks Ernest


49 posted on 05/22/2010 8:58:43 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Dr. Happer is a friend of Dr. Bill Wattenburg, heard on KGO AM 810 each Sat/Sun nite from 10PM to 1AM! He's complained for years how Algore had Dr. Happer fired simply because he challenged numb-nuts Gore's supposed "Inconvenient Truth!"

Dr. Happer was the REAL "Inconvenient Truth" they've been trying to stiffle!!!

50 posted on 05/22/2010 9:50:45 PM PDT by SierraWasp ("Contempt of Congress" used to be a minor crime. Now it's a badge of honor!!!)
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51 posted on 05/23/2010 1:12:15 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (70 mph shouldn't be a speed limit; it shoud be a mandate!)
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To: unspun

Bump!


52 posted on 05/23/2010 6:03:30 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Low taxes, low government budget -- works every time. Next question?)
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