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To: bigbob

I’m starting to think that the liberal media is right.

Conservatives really are stupid.

Todays highlight is the thread where....countless Freepers, not just the kook Paul crowd, are dinging Palin for financially supporting Portman in Ohio.

Portman has won the primary and faces an uber leftist Dem.
Portman’s conservative rating is 90% on ACU.

WTF is happening to this website ????


35 posted on 05/12/2010 12:06:33 PM PDT by rbmillerjr ("Palinphobia has, for 20 months, been the one constant among liberals in America.")
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To: rbmillerjr

WTF is happening to this website ????
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It’s gone the way of RedState.com.

Mobys, trolls and absolutists, oh my!

- JP


38 posted on 05/12/2010 12:23:31 PM PDT by Josh Painter ("Every time a Democrat mocks Sarah Palin, an independent gets its wings." - JP)
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To: rbmillerjr; Lakeshark

Sarah has become the pinata. It’s juvenile. Not merited, not pretty. One would think that she’s holding the seat of power in Washington, DC, not the one trying her best to defeat the Marxist and his Marxist party in power!


39 posted on 05/12/2010 12:27:27 PM PDT by onyx (Sarah/Michele 2012)
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To: rbmillerjr; Josh Painter; onyx
You were saying ...

WTF is happening to this website ????

There's a certain number who are comfortable in roles that they have become familiar with.

It's being "the opposition" ...

And it definitely is a role. It has its own ways of doing things, ways of talking, ways of "interacting" with others (who may not think exacly as you do), and ways of doing politics, in geneeral.

There's the other role, which would be to be in control and not the opposition. That definitely a different role than being the opposition. It's a different language, it's working with people that you really would not want to vote for in the first place (in order to get legislation through), and being in "control" may require working with a President that is not on your side and still managing to get legislation through, in bringing over support from the President's side to your side, and you have to contend with the other side -- now being the "opposition" against you.

I think a lot of people are totally unfamiliar with that role and thus fall into the much more comfortable role that they've become accustomed to (coming with its own language and rules and political methodology) -- of "being the opposition". I think it's actually "very uncomfortable" for a certain number "to be in control", and they frequently slip into the "opposition mode" even when they may be "in control" of politics in a certain venue. That ends up working against them in the long run.

The "opposition" (by the nature of what it inherently is) -- is basically concerned with the negative. It always is against something, stopping something, blocking something, countering something -- and fundamentally so (it has to be), because the "other side" is in control. This is the function of "the opposition".

The problem with being the "opposition" is that the "wider voting electorate" (that is ... the "majority" of the voters) -- doesn't rally around "negatives" as a long-term focus for a party.

The voting public (at large) must have a positive rallying point (even if there are "negatives" that they have to oppose from time to time) -- for the continuing "control" and "government" of the country. You don't end up having control very long if you're onlly focus is on "opposition" on everything. That puts one in a very hazardous position.

It's important to "break out of that role" of being in the "opposition" and being to rallying the greater voting electorate around "positives" of governing in the long-run.

There's a number of people who are comfortable in the role of being in the opposition, who need to "break out" and become part of a rally to the positive and for "governing" and control. But that will take another completely different set of rules and ways of "talking" and ways of dealing with the media. I think a lot of people aren't too familiar wih it.

And, ya know... that's one thing that is absolutely infectious with Sarah Palin, the politics of the positive and breaking out of being seen as "opposition only"... she does have a way about her that people love to "rally around"... and that's very good for a leader in this country.

44 posted on 05/12/2010 12:51:28 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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