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they dont care what Americans want anymore...its just a power grab...plain and simple...we lost the nation.


5 posted on 04/29/2010 4:37:59 AM PDT by dalebert
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To: dalebert

Not yet we haven’t....not yet.


6 posted on 04/29/2010 4:41:12 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: dalebert
they dont care what Americans want anymore...its just a power grab...plain and simple...we lost the nation.

Speak for yourself. It's only lost if you let it happen.
7 posted on 04/29/2010 4:42:45 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: dalebert

Why not D.C.,Guam etc.This is a coup pure and simple.I never thought it would come so easy for the left.Most people I know of are just voluntarily putting their head under the guillotine and saying thank you for the hope and change.Obama is not really worried about his re election because he is just setting the cornerstone in place and will be martyred for the fundamental dismantling of the former United States of America.Great conservative men past and present have warned and told us what we can do.Levin,Beck,Limbaugh,Savage and others have different views and styles but have made the call for years that this would happen.We need to unite.We need leadership.We need courage.


30 posted on 04/29/2010 5:21:26 AM PDT by shanover (These are the times that try men's souls....tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered-T. Paine)
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Here’s a Threat Matrix quote [via mestamachine]:

http://www.hispanicmuslims.com/articles/arizonalatinos.html

Latinos embracing Islam, but
‘dirty bomb’ case brings unwanted attention
By Daniel González
Arizona Republic
June 28, 2002

Melissa Morales, a Latina born in Puerto Rico, was eating in a local Mexican restaurant recently when the waiter wanted to know why she covered her head in a long black scarf.

“Eres monjita?” the Spanish-speaking waiter asked. Are you a nun?

Her answer caught the waiter by surprise. No, she told him. Not a nun, a Muslim.

Latinos and Islam may seem like a strange combination to most, primarily because Catholicism is so deeply embedded in Latino culture. But the combination is less unusual, believers point out, in light of the fact that beginning in the year 711, Muslims from North Africa occupied Spain for more than seven centuries.

Still, the estimated 40,000 Latino Muslims in the United States remained far off the country’s cultural radar until earlier this month when a Latino Muslim named Jose Padilla was accused by federal authorities of plotting with Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaida terrorist network to detonate a radioactive “dirty bomb” on U.S. soil.

Authorities said Padilla, the Brooklyn-born son of Puerto Rican parents, was raised a Catholic, but converted to Islam.

Padilla’s arrest did not bring the kind of attention the small but growing number of Latino Muslims want. They are quick to defend their religion as peaceful.

“Islam is peace. Islam is not terrorism,” said Morales, 25, an elementary school teacher at the Tempe Islamic Cultural Center.

There is no Latino Muslim organization in the Phoenix area, and Morales said she has encountered fewer than 50 Latino Muslims.

She also wondered why Padilla’s ethnicity and citizenship became an issue when John Walker Lindh’s has not. Lindh is the 20-year-old American from California who converted to Islam and is accused of conspiring with Taliban forces in Afghanistan to kill fellow Americans.

“Why do we have to categorize (Padilla) because he’s Latino? Why don’t we do that with John Walker?” asked Morales, pointing out that Puerto Ricans are U.S. citizens by birth.

The world’s 1 billion Muslims believe that Islam is the one true religion and that there is only one God, Allah, whose revelations revealed in the seventh century to the Prophet Mohammed are contained in Islam’s sacred book, the Koran.

Padilla’s arrest shocked many Latino Muslims, including Juan Galvan, vice president of the national Latino American Dawah Organization.

Dawah means “the call to Allah” in Arabic, and the organization works to promote Islam to Latinos.

Galvan believes the publicity over Padilla’s arrest only added to negative perceptions about both Islam and Latinos.

“Islam is always associated with something negative,” said Galvan, 27, of Austin, who also heads the Texas chapter of the Latino American Dawah Organization. “Of all the people who had to get themselves in trouble, this guy turns out to be Latino.”

Islam is the nation’s fastest growing religion and in many ways the reasons Latinos are converting to Islam are no different than those of others.

Some, like Veronica Ramirez, 36, of Tempe and Lucy Chapa, 32, of Phoenix, were raised Roman Catholic but became disenchanted with many of Catholicism’s tenets.

“I was practicing Catholicism, but in my mind there were always doubts,” Ramirez said. “One of my questions was the Trinity. How could one person be three?”

Ramirez, a native of Mexico, said a Muslim friend from Lebanon first introduced her to Islam in college. She said she was attracted to the faith’s practicality.

“For every rule there is a reason. It’s not just ‘because,’ “ Ramirez said.

Chapa had never heard of Islam until she met a Muslim man while traveling in Europe seven years ago.

Other Latino Muslims like Sheila Roman, 36, of Tempe and Katherine Muhammad, 30, of Phoenix converted to Islam after marrying Muslims.

“My converting was not for my husband,” said Roman, a native of Puerto Rico. “It was by choice.”

Morales, a former Pentecostal missionary, prefers to say she “reverted” to Islam rather than converted.

In fact, she said, many Latinos who embrace Islam feel that they are reclaiming their Islamic heritage, not rejecting Latino culture.

“Latino people,” she said, “have a legacy of Islam in Spain.”

In the company of each other, they often blend three cultures, greeting each other with the traditional Muslim greeting “salaam alaykum” while conversing in Spanish and English.
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http://www.latinodawah.org/links/links2.html

Muslim Organizations in Latin America

Latino Muslim Organizations in the United States
Muslim Organizations in Latin America
Various Latino Muslim Links
Various Latino Links
Various Muslim Links

ARGENTINA | BOLIVIA | BRASIL | CHILE | COLOMBIA | COSTA RICA
CUBA | CURAZAO | ECUADOR | EL SALVADOR | GUATEMALA | HONDURAS
MÉXICO | NICARAGUA | PANAMA | PARAGUAY | PERÚ | PUERTO RICO
REPÚBLICA DOMINICANA | SURINAME | FRENCH GUIANA
TRINIDAD Y TOBAGO | VENEZUELA | GUYANA | URUGUAY | HAITI

Countries that first colonized Latin America: SPAIN, PORTUGAL, and FRANCE
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In 2007, there were over 5,000 Muslims in Puerto Rico, representing about 0.13% of the population. There are eight Islamic mosques spread throughout the island, with most Muslims living in Río Piedras.

Puerto Rican converts to Islam continues to occur. “Ties between Latinos and Islam are more than just spiritual, but date back to Spanish history. Many people do not realize that Muslims ruled Spain for more than 700 years”. And at times not just individuals, but whole families convert. However, lack of Muslim education in the Island forces some Puerto Rican Muslims to migrate to the States.
Many Latino Muslims who claim Islamic roots point out that Islam’s influence on Latin America is not new. They point to the African/Islamic influence evident in Spanish literature, music and thought. Thousands of Spanish words, for example, are derived from Arabic. In Latino culture, especially language, there are lots of Arabisms.

***Islam was brought into Puerto Rico mainly via the Palestinian migration of the 1950s and ‘60s. Thus, today there is a strong Palestinian presence among Muslims in Puerto Rico. “They are economically strong and are thus able to pay for a full time Imaam”.
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Islam Luring More Latinos

The steadily increasing number of Latino Muslims illustrates how deeply rooted Islam has become in the America landscape - even spreading to communities not normally associated with the faith, religious scholars say.
By Chris L. Jenkins, Washington Post, January 7, 2001

At dusk, Aminah Martinez prepares dinner in her small Fairfax kitchen. Corn tortillas for enchiladas, grated cheese and beef for tacos, maybe an avocado for guacamole — all staples of her youth.

But dusk is also time for prayer. So every evening, with her husband and two children, she places her hands together and kneels to the east. It is Maghrib, Muslims’ fourth prayer of the day, and she begins whispering in Arabic as the subtle aromas of Mexico mix with sounds often associated with the Middle East.

Martinez is one of the thousands of Latinos nationwide who have converted to Islam. It is an amalgam of two seemingly disparate communities. But in growing numbers, Hispanics, the country’s fastest-growing ethnic group, are finding new faith in Islam, the nation’s fastest-growing religion. Moved by what many say is a close-knit religious environment and a faith that provides a more concrete, intimate connection with God, they are replacing Mass with mosques.

“Islam has given me a sense of religious community and well-being that I was starting to miss in my life,” said Martinez, 26, who converted from Catholicism in 1993. “It’s helped give me a sense of completion.”

The steadily increasing number of Latino Muslims illustrates how deeply rooted Islam has become in the national landscape — even spreading to communities not normally associated with the faith, religious scholars say. The Muslim population in the United States is estimated at more than 4 million, nearly six times the number in 1970, but still a fraction of the nearly 1 billion Muslims worldwide.

Although exact numbers are difficult to find, the American Muslim Council, an advocacy group in Washington, estimates that there are 25,000 Hispanic Muslims in the United States. The largest communities are in New York City, Southern California and Chicago — all places that traditionally have had large Hispanic and Muslim populations. All-Spanish mosques have emerged in some of those areas.

Many of the converts say they are choosing Islam because they feel the religion gives them greater direct contact with God, without saints and a rigid church hierarchy. Some also point to what they see as a closer-knit, smaller community that helps replace the extended family they have lost here in America, as well as a supportive sanctuary to help sort through their sometimes recent immigration. The Latino Muslims are part of a larger trend of American Hispanics leaving the Catholic Church, experts say.

In the Washington region, the population of Latino Muslims is largely from Mexico and Central America, as it is in western states, according to Latin American Muslim Unity, an advocacy group in Fresno, Calif. In other eastern cities, including Miami, significant numbers of converts are from Puerto Rico and Cuba.

“It certainly is a community that we have seen grow throughout the country over the past several years,” said Aly R. Abuzaakouk, executive director of the American Muslim Council. “The community is not as organized as other Muslim groups here, so sometimes it’s hard to determine the numbers.”

Signs of the growth of Islam in the United States can be seen in everyday life. A few colleges are building student centers for Muslims, just as they built Hillel centers for Jewish students or Newman centers for Catholics several generations ago. The White House now sends greetings for the Muslim holiday of Id al-Fitr, the feast that ends Ramadan.

“I think on college campuses and other public spaces, you’re finding a greater acceptance of the views and the presence of Muslims,” said John L. Esposito, a professor at Georgetown University and director of its Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding. “A generation ago you might use the phrase ‘Islam and the West,’ and now you would say ‘Islam in the West.’ “

Indeed, acceptance and exposure are fueling the conversions, making it easier for Latinos to learn about Islam. Martinez, for example, converted when she was a student at the University of Texas in Austin. The eldest child in a strict Catholic household, she says Islam was largely alien to her until she began talking with Muslim students on campus. Like many Hispanics who have converted, she said she felt a distance from the Catholic Church, both as a religious community and a spiritual path.

“Growing up, I was a very devout Catholic. . . . Youth groups and everything,” Martinez said. “But as I got older, I felt there were too many distractions in the church. Islam, to me, was a more direct faith where I felt a strong sense of belonging.”

Her faith was tested immediately. Martinez’s grandmother was so disappointed by the conversion that she asked her granddaughter to leave her home and refused to support her financially. She saw the defection from Catholicism as a rejection of family and tradition, Martinez said. It would be a year before the two would reconcile.

Such stories are common among Latinos who have abandoned Catholicism for Islam.

Others have had a smoother transition. Becky Diaz Abu Ghannam, 39, a Chilean American resident of Sterling who converted in 1984, said that she grew up feeling that Catholicism did not provide the close-knit religious community she was looking for. As she became more aware of Islam when she came to America, she found that it provided a warmth and direction that appealed to her — particularly the five daily prayers. Initially, like many other Hispanic women interviewed, she was concerned about the role of women in Islam and whether she would be forced to take a subservient position to her husband, who is also Muslim, and other men. Her fears subsided as she learned more about the Koran and its teachings and how some countries’ Islamic communities are less stringent about such requirements.

And, she adds, her mother, a lifelong Catholic, converted several months ago after seeing her daughter’s spiritual path.

“The sense of sisterhood I felt with others who wore hijab was something that I had never experienced,” said Abu Ghannam, referring to the practice of Muslim women covering their heads in public. She added that, like Martinez, she is raising her children to speak all the languages of their upbringing: Arabic, Spanish, English.

“I think what many [Hispanics] are finding in Islam is a community that they find more nurturing,” said Nicole Ballivian, a Los Angeles documentary filmmaker who is completing a movie about Latino Muslims called “Luces Sobre Islam” (”Islam in Focus”).

She has traveled throughout South America and the Caribbean and visited many Hispanic Muslim communities here. She said that many of the converts she has talked with say the Catholic Church is large and impersonal.

These concerns about Catholicism mirror a trend that many officials in U.S. dioceses have tracked for years: the defection of Hispanics. The Catholic Almanac estimates that 100,000 Hispanics in the United States leave the church each year, although some other experts put the number as high as 600,000. Most have moved to Pentecostal and evangelical Protestant faiths as well as Mormonism, Islam and Buddhism. Converts appear to be both men and women in equal numbers.

“The numbers of Latinos who convert to various religions is certainly significant,” said Alejandro Aguilera Titus, assistant director for the Secretariat for Hispanic Affairs with the National Council of Catholic Bishops in Washington. “We find that the conversion efforts of many faiths have increased recently, which has led many Hispanics away from the Catholic Church.”

Many area Latinos who have converted say their attraction to Islam is spiritual and pragmatic. And even as their community seems scattered — with members attending mosques in Manassas, Herndon, Falls Church, Langley Park and College Park — they have formed their own organizations and have produced their own literature. Spanish translations of the Koran, for instance, are popular at several Northern Virginia mosques.

The Association of Latin American Muslims, a group based in Takoma Park, distributes a bilingual, bimonthly newspaper, “La Voz Del Islam” (”The Voice of Islam”) with members occasionally walking the streets to talk to Latinos.

“Organizing here can be very difficult at times, because it is easy to mistake Hispanics for other ethnicities,” said group president R. Abdur Rahman Campos, who converted in 1982 after coming here from Mexico. Campos, 48, said he left the Catholic Church frustrated by what he called its heavy emphasis on saints, which he says distracted him from the word of God.

“But it is important to continue to spread the teachings to Hispanics and non-Hispanics,” he added. “To everyone.”

Source: Washington Post, Sunday, January 7, 2001; Page C01


45 posted on 04/29/2010 5:45:08 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (Weakening McCain strengthens our borders, weakens guest worker aka amnesty)
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