There is an official HI record of an Obama Dunham marriage. For the same reason I cannot accept Obama’s "Certification of Live Birth" as PROOF, I have a difficult time accepting “index data” (really not even that) of Obama Bride and Groom. It may have been entered into the Hawaii Vital Statistic records YEARS LATER (even as a hand-written annotation) as a DIRECT result of the 1964 Divorce Documentation itself, which may have been initiated in January 1964 WITHOUT Ann Dunham actually showing a Marriage Certificate to the presiding Divorce judge, Judge King. With the help of her attorneys, Judge King may have accepted a Washington State Drivers License, Student ID and/or even College Transcripts showing her with the married name OBAMA in lieu of an ACTUAL Marriage Certificate.
![]() Remember ... this was 1964 on the island of Hawaii, which was not known for highly-accurate and tight paperwork. If you think like a crook with multiple Aliases, this can be VERY easily done with a sincere smile, cooperative and/or unknowing attorneys representing you, while holding a fussy, crying baby to coax the judge to abide by your requests to get the brat out of his chambers ... WITHOUT ever showing a Marriage Certificate. Yes, even a Judge can be scammed. Recall that Obama SR NEVER responded to the mailed “knock and nail” notification sent in Jan-Feb 1964 to his address in Cambridge, Mass, to appear in Hawaii for the Divorce hearing (shown BELOW). As he never responded, the Divorce was granted automatically by Judge King 60 days later; HOWEVER, it does not show PROOF that there was a Marriage Certificate, even though this event is accepted in the Divorce papers as FACT. Once the Divorce was granted, that would have been all that was required for Ann or Toot to file for Welfare, AFDC and Food Stamp benefits for young Obama Jr.
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For BOTH the Marriage and Birth Certificates, only the ORIGINAL
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I do not believe they were married in Hawaii--I doubt there is any real record there--you don't set out copies of the record--publication of her U of W grade transcript may not be what you intended. But I don't have any trouble believing that they massaged the records of marriage at some later date.
I don't agree with Fred's proposition that she needed the decree for custody purposes. She had custody; even today, the mother with custody wouldn't need to come up with the decree to manage the kid's relationship with the school.
The obvious reason she wanted the divorce was that she wanted to marry someone else and did not want to commit bigamy to do so. And that is an equally plausible excuse for why Barack Sr. wouldn't marry her in Honolulu.
So if we want to look for evidence of the marriage, we need to look for a jurisdiction where more than one wife is the accepted norm.
The fact that they were going half way around the world to do it was part of the reason they waited until the semester break at the end of Fall semester the end of January to do it. There might have been other reasons they waited until February but this one fits.
I view it as a given that Obama was in fact born in Mombasa. There is way too much evidence to have much doubt about that question.
So ask yourself how she got there and when or why did she go there? If you believe the story about the missionaries seeing her denied boarding in Nairobi in July (and I do), she obviously intended to deliver in the US--why was she in Kenya in July?
Why can't they come up with any evidence that she was pregnant and in Hawaii during the spring and summer of 1961? Why can't they come up with any shred of evidence as to where she was in the period between the end of fall semester in 1960-61 and her appearance on Mercer Island?
As to his actual parentage, there is third hand testimony somewhere about a friend of Stanley Armor (her father) about the "guess who's coming to dinner" conversation that, combined with the birth in Kenya, in my mind pretty well locks in Obama Sr.
Seems to me a logical place to look for evidence of a marriage is Kenya, or maybe Ghana. It wouldn't be surprising if you didn't find a paper record--that wouldn't be unusual in that area and under the circumstances. You have to speculate what would have been on the mind of Obama's manager on this issue: Find the marriage certificate in Kenya and maybe people will ask when and how she came back and open a more detailed inquiry where she was in Hawaii between the marriage and birth? The decision to conceal the marriage location was made a long time ago--presumably as early as the date on which she filed the divorce proceeding, probably before there was sophisticated legal help managing the facts.
If you accept as a working hypothesis that they were in fact married in some kind of form proceeding, if they had done it in Hawaii or in any other Western jurisdiction, there isn't any reason to conceal the location where the act took place. It was bigamy. So what--it would have passed as a de facto marriage while Stanley Ann was alive; when both are dead, who would care?
So maybe an after the fact deliberation by his managers that caused them to lock that fact into the legend is the desire to avoid making Stanley Ann guilty of perjury. They had a marriage in Hawaii under oath from the mother, that is going to be difficult to contradict under circumstances where there are probably some reasons you don't want to get too close to the real marriage location.
Damn, these people are conniving.
“It may have been entered into the Hawaii Vital Statistic records YEARS LATER (even as a handwritten annotation) as a DIRECT result of the 1964 Divorce Documentation itself, which may have been initiated in January 1964 WITHOUT Ann Dunham actually showing a Marriage Certificate to the presiding Divorce judge, Judge King.
“With the help of her attorneys, Judge King may have accepted a Washington State Drivers License, Student ID and/or even College Transcripts showing her with the married name OBAMA in lieu of an ACTUAL Marriage Certificate.”
The release of the Obama-Dunham vital marriage index (which any person can obtain from HI under FOIA) is evidence that there is an underlying HI marriage record.
As you state, it is not an original record of a marriage. If officials have been corrupted, anything could appear in or be removed from the HI records, but that requires a conspiracy (collusion between two or more to take steps to commit an illegal act).
I do not believe that you will find contemporaneous statutory support for your speculations as to how a marriage vital record could have been created after the fact and inserted into the HI vital records.
I cannot imagine a judge ordering a vital record of a marriage to a party (Obama Sr.) to be created retroactively and inserted in the tightly administered state vital records files when that party (Obama Sr.) never made an appearance in his court to begin with!
If this were true any woman could waltz into court, claim she was divorcing you and then get the judge to retroactively create a marriage record for you for a date several years earlier without you ever appearing in court.
There is a missing page from the Obama-Dunham divorce and prime possibilities are the marriage record or Obama II’s birth record neither of which can be released under HI privacy laws to other than first degree relatives for 75 years (from memory).